Green Day's 'Cigarettes and Valentines' (partially found album; 2003)

Cigarettes and Valentines
A photo of the band.
A photo of the band.
Status Partially Found

Cigarettes and Valentines is an unreleased album by pop-punk band Green Day, recorded in 2003. Meant to be a follow-up to their 2000 album Warning, the master recordings were stolen close to the conclusion of production.[1] Instead of re-recording the album, the band decided to move on and create something different, resulting in American Idiot. The band eventually considered this "a blessing in disguise", saying that Cigarettes and Valentines wasn't "maximum Green Day".[2][3]


Bassist Mike Dirnt admitted that backups had been made of the masters, but claimed that they "just [weren't] the same as the originals", and the band ended up doing nothing with them. There was speculation that the copies had been reworked into Money Money 2020, an album released by The Network, but lead vocalist Billie Joe Armstrong denied any connection between the two projects.

In a 2016 interview, the band elaborated on the status of the album, saying that it's "pretty much in the vault right now" and, apart from a handful of songs such as the titular "Cigarettes and Valentines", said it was unlikely that they would officially release the album, as the band tends to "look forward rather than reaching back".[4]

Out of the twenty songs recorded for the album, only five have been released in some form or played live by the band. "Cigarettes and Valentines" and "Olivia" were played live during the 21st Century Breakdown World Tour, although only "Cigarettes and Valentines" was released on their live album Awesome As Fuck. "Too Much Too Soon" also saw an official release as a B-side for the American Idiot single. "Walk Away" and "Youngblood" were re-recorded and put on the 2012 album ¡Tre! and the 2016 album Revolution Radio respectively.


"Cigarettes and Valentines" live performance.
"Olivia" live performance.
"Too Much Too Soon"
"Walk Away"


  1. An article on lost albums, including a segment on Cigarettes and Valentines. Retrieved 18 June '17
  2. An article on unreleased albums, including Cigarettes and Valentines. Retrieved 18 June '17
  3. An article mentioning this album. Retrieved 18 June '17
  4. Interview with the band where they mention the album. Retrieved 18 June '17



Anonymous user #1

7 months ago
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There's rumors that the "stolen recordings" story was made up and that the band simply didn't think the original album was good enough, so they decided to record another one entirely. There's also rumors that the original album was released after all, but under a different band name and album title, Specifically the album Money Money 2000 by "The Network", which was released on Billie Joe Armstrong's record label, if you give it a listen, it sounds an awful lot like Green Day, and given that Billie Joe and Mike Durnt have a history of releasing albums under weird side-project names, it's out of the realm of possibility that Money Money 2000 is in fact Cigarettes and Valentines after all.

Anonymous user #2

7 months ago
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You are aware that 'The Network' is Green Day? You speculated it, but IT IS them and 2 other guys(them being the original Green Day original 3 and Jason White who is now a permanent member of Green Day but was only a touring member at the time)

Anonymous user #3

6 months ago
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Money Money 2020 is ALMOST CERTAINLY not Cigarettes and Valentines. C&V was described as a "return to form" for Green Day and had twenty tracks recorded. MM2020 was a complete departure from Green Day's regular style (being a new wave album heavy in synths and with Mike Dirnt doing more of the vocals than Billie Joe) with 14 tracks recorded. Also keep in mind that four C&V tracks have been released and they don't sound like The Network at all.

I highly doubt that Stop Drop and Roll is C&V either.

Anonymous user #4

5 months ago
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No C&V wasn't a return to form, it even says here "The band eventually considered this a blessing in disguise, saying that the album wasn't "maximum Green Day","
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