Groupie (partially found Marilyn Manson short; 1990s)


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Groupie
A screenshot from Groupie, taken from Marilyn Manson's live video album Dead to the World.
A screenshot from Groupie, taken from Marilyn Manson's live video album Dead to the World.
Status Partially found

Shot one night between 1996 and 1998 was a short film by Marilyn Manson (in his first filmmaking effort) titled Groupie. The short was recorded at an actual house party that Manson was hosting and involved a stooge actress portraying a young groupie being made to do more and more perverse and disturbing things in front of Manson's unknowing guests (who were only told that a woman would be arriving and that he would be filming her).[1]

The film begins with Manson sucking bandmate Jeordie 'Twiggy' White's flaccid penis through a condom at the house party before the groupie shortly after that arrives at the door (brandishing a piece of artwork as a gift); she is then invited inside, where things become progressively more disturbing. She is pressured into drinking Stephen 'Madonna Wayne Gacy' Bier's urine from a wine glass (Bier also being a member of Manson's band), which she eventually does, but only after convincing Manson to also partake. The contents of the remainder of the short have not been made entirely clear, although it has been revealed that the groupie is at one point tied up, a gun is introduced into the situation by Manson, a fight breaks out, and blood is shed.

Many of the party's guests are said to have come away from the experience very shaken up, not knowing whether or not what had happened was legitimate, or staged (though it has been suggested that the film consists of both legitimate and staged events and that the actress portraying the groupie, while somewhat in the know, may not have been given all of the details of the event prior to its occurrence).

Only three people are confirmed as having seen the short; Manson himself, Andy Dick (comedian friend of Manson's) and Manson's manager, Tony Ciulla; the former two of whom discussed the short on a 2002 episode of Dinner for Five and the latter of whom, after viewing the film, implored Manson to hide the masters, believing that if it were to be released, Manson would likely go to jail and/or end his career. He obliged Ciulla for the most part, only releasing a very small portion of the film, seen at the end of his 1998 live video album Dead to the World. The segment, which shows a tied up, a distressed woman (with her face either obscured or out of frame) screaming and being tormented by Manson, before reciting the phrase "Jesus loves me for the Bible tells me so." at his forceful command can be seen below. Besides these few fragments of footage, a tight seal has been kept on Groupie, and it has been confirmed by Manson that it will release on October 20th, 2016 with the Antichrist Superstar 20th anniversary box set.[2] Notably, the short was mentioned in the press kit for Manson's unfinished film Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll where it was cited as an "Unreleased short film (banned)", as part of his filmography.[3]


References

  1. Manson Wiki article on Groupie. Last retrieved 18 Oct 2014.
  2. http://exclaim.ca/music/article/marilyn_manson_announces_antichrist_superstar_20th_anniversary_box_set Article discussing the release of "Groupie"
  3. PDF of the Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll press kit, via Wild Bunch. Last retrieved 18 Oct 2014.

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Anonymous user #1

7 months ago
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I always thought this video was fake and a crappy markting stunt
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Anonymous user #1

7 months ago
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because think about it if that girl went through that kind of hell you would think she would talk to someone
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Flashbcaks

5 months ago
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you would think so, but we dont know if she signed any sort of paperwork before this was filmed that would keep her silent. it could be that if she came forward with what she knows, manson/his legal team could take her to court. we just dont know...
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Anonymous user #2

4 months ago
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Am like wtf
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DemonDaze

3 months ago
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How the fuck was it "shot one night" over a period of two years?
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Kobochat

3 months ago
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The night it was shot on was somewhere in that range, meaning it was shot in either 1996, 1997, or 1998
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GavinTheMemeMan

18 days ago
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shot one night in between those times
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Anonymous user #3

3 months ago
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Wait I dont think a fucking rape thing was made for a music vid of a album so why is it catagorised as Lost recordings of real incidents it makes no sense
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Anonymous user #4

2 months ago
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From a brand new interview:

"Yes, we’re putting out a box set on October 20th, and it has a legendary video that I had to put into a safe for the past 15 years, for reasons that will be revealed when you watch it. I had innocently thought that it was acceptable to use it as sort of a bonus feature on my Dead to the World video for the Antichrist Superstar tour. However, the legal department and my management informed me otherwise. But now it is going to be seen by all. I won’t say anything else to spoil it, just that it captured a moment in time, after I had just moved to Los Angeles. I was living with Twiggy (Ramirez, Manson’s longtime guitarist) and I had just come off a tour where I got death threats every day. It’s an interesting portrayal of what was happening at the time, but strangely, it doesn’t seem any different than the way I behave now, except that I’m wearing a cowboy hat. That’s about it."

As a longtime fan, I'd bet everything I have that this is what he's describing. So soon we'll probably be able to add "FOUND" to this page
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Kobochat

2 months ago
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!!!
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IAmJefferson 2001

2 months ago
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SHIT.
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Anonymous user #5

1 months ago
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WHos READY FOR THIS?
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Anonymous user #6

1 months ago
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Wow
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Anonymous user #7

1 months ago
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Can someone post a link to a site where I can buy this box set? I will gladly rip it and post it online ASAP!
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Kobochat

1 months ago
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Looks like there's been a schedule slip, sadly...
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Anonymous user #7

1 months ago
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Apparently MM has a bad rep for delaying or simply canceling releases. Hoping it's not outright cancelled, but the chances are pretty high considering the legality of the short movie included in the box set.
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Anonymous user #8

9 days ago
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It been released yet?
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