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'''''Old Ramon''''' is the final Red House Painters album, released in 2001. The album went through a troubled production that resulted in the band getting dropped from Island Records. It is known for its more light-hearted feel compared to other Red House Painters albums. This album in and of itself almost ended up becoming a piece of lost media when Island held onto the master tapes. It didn't make its planned 1998 release.
 
  
For over 4 years Kozelek struggled to find a record company willing to put down the money to buy it from Island, who wanted more than the album was worth to have it released. The band got trapped in limbo along with many other alternative and indie bands from the 90s who also have missing material (such as [[Whiskeytown 'Pneumonia' (lost album tracks; 1990s)|Whiskeytown's album ''Pnuemonia'']], which reportedly has around 100 missing tracks). What is remarkable about ''Old Ramon'' is that absolutely none of the tracks ended up getting bootlegged. This is considered something of a miracle in the music industry, as anything that goes unreleased from the late 90's onward is easily subject to bootlegging. SubPop Records finally offered a huge sum of money to buy the album in 2001 and get it released.
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'''''Old Ramon''''' is the final Red House Painters album, released in 2001. It is notable for its more light-hearted feel compared to other Red House Painters albums. The album went through a troubled production, however, as it was originally intended for a 1998 release, but was stalled for three years. The ordeal ended up getting the band dropped from Island Records altogether.
  
Fans were pleased with the album until a 2001 interview with Mark Kozelek<ref>[http://thebadpennyblog.com/2010/10/04/red-house-painters-mark-kozelekthere%E2%80%99s-a-bad-feeling-that-comes-with-playing-solo-too-much/#more-3771 2001 interview with Mark Kozelek, courtesy of thebadpennyblog.com.] Retrieved 28 May '13.</ref> confirmed that ''Old Ramon'' was intended to be a double album. Among the album's still missing material is a longer, 18-minute version of "Michigan" and a 20-minute-long dark song called "The Mission". It is not known if Island, SubPop, or Kozelek himself holds the master tapes, or if the tapes even still exist. Fans have searched far and wide for these missing recordings and as of yet nothing has surfaced.
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For over four years, Kozelek struggled to find a record company willing to put down the money to buy it from Island, who wanted more than the album was worth to have it released. The band got trapped in limbo along with many other alternative and indie bands from the 90s who also have missing material (such as [[Whiskeytown 'Pneumonia' (lost album tracks; 1990s)|Whiskeytown's album ''Pnuemonia'']], which reportedly has around 100 missing tracks). SubPop Records finally offered a huge sum of money to buy the album in 2001 and get it released.
  
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Fans were pleased with the album until a 2001 interview with Mark Kozelek<ref>[http://thebadpennyblog.com/2010/10/04/red-house-painters-mark-kozelekthere%E2%80%99s-a-bad-feeling-that-comes-with-playing-solo-too-much/#more-3771 2001 interview with Mark Kozelek, courtesy of thebadpennyblog.com.] Retrieved 28 May '13.</ref> confirmed that ''Old Ramon'' was intended to be a double album. Surprisingly, the unused tracks of ''Old Ramon'' have not been bootlegged, which was fairly common for other unreleased albums and songs from the late 90s onwards.
  
{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWcND0WqH50|640x480|center|Red House Painters' cover version of John Denver's "Fly Away", suspected by some to have been taken from the 18-minute cut of "Michigan".|frame}}
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Among the album's still-missing material is a longer, 18-minute version of "Michigan" and a 20-minute-long dark song called "The Mission". It is not known if Island, SubPop, or Kozelek himself hold the master tapes, or if the tapes even still exist.
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==Gallery==
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{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWcND0WqH50|320x240|center|Red House Painters' cover version of John Denver's "Fly Away", suspected by some to have been taken from the 18-minute cut of "Michigan".|frame}}
  
 
==References==
 
==References==

Revision as of 08:12, 21 June 2017

Old Ramon album art.

Status: Lost


Old Ramon is the final Red House Painters album, released in 2001. It is notable for its more light-hearted feel compared to other Red House Painters albums. The album went through a troubled production, however, as it was originally intended for a 1998 release, but was stalled for three years. The ordeal ended up getting the band dropped from Island Records altogether.

For over four years, Kozelek struggled to find a record company willing to put down the money to buy it from Island, who wanted more than the album was worth to have it released. The band got trapped in limbo along with many other alternative and indie bands from the 90s who also have missing material (such as Whiskeytown's album Pnuemonia, which reportedly has around 100 missing tracks). SubPop Records finally offered a huge sum of money to buy the album in 2001 and get it released.

Fans were pleased with the album until a 2001 interview with Mark Kozelek[1] confirmed that Old Ramon was intended to be a double album. Surprisingly, the unused tracks of Old Ramon have not been bootlegged, which was fairly common for other unreleased albums and songs from the late 90s onwards.

Among the album's still-missing material is a longer, 18-minute version of "Michigan" and a 20-minute-long dark song called "The Mission". It is not known if Island, SubPop, or Kozelek himself hold the master tapes, or if the tapes even still exist.

Gallery

Red House Painters' cover version of John Denver's "Fly Away", suspected by some to have been taken from the 18-minute cut of "Michigan".

References