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'''''The Incel Project''''' was a TV-MA rated, Blip.tv original documentary series released from 2008-2012.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20130406024814/http://blip.tv/the-incel-project- Archived Blip.tv page for ''The Incel Project''.] Retrieved 24 Feb '20</ref> It was being made by an unknown person with the email incel57@yahoo.com,<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20130322031616/http://www.involuntarycelibacy.com/contact.html Archived Involuntary Celibacy page that has the contacts.] Retrieved 24 Feb '20</ref> possibly a member of the early feminist incel forum called IncelSupport. The doc was featured in the "original series" section of Blip.tv (now defunct), a seemingly curated section of the site. The documentary's non-Blip.tv homepage was ''involuntarycelibacy.com'' (now defunct). Non-draft or non-final-cut episodes appear to be straight interviews and often exceeded 20 minutes. The series was released as a work-in-progress to be assembled into a condensed final cut documentary, perhaps with other footage.<ref name="ATI">[http://web.archive.org/web/20130322122802/http://www.involuntarycelibacy.com/page04.html Archived page 4 of the Involuntary Celibacy website.] Retrieved 24 Feb '20</ref> At least 2 different drafts of a final cut were also uploaded to Blip.tv and released.<ref name="draft">[http://web.archive.org/web/20130406025159/http://blip.tv/the-incel-project-/incelsupport-member-early-40-s-2587627 Archived page that shows the existence of draft #1 & #2 at bottom], Retrieved 25 Feb '20</ref> Almost all footage associated with this doc series is lost. | |||
'''''The Incel Project''''' was a TV-MA rated, | |||
==Background and Contents== | ==Background and Contents== | ||
In 1997, Alana created Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project as an academic project and email listserv to fuel academic research into involuntary singledom. | In 1997, Alana created the Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project as an academic project and email listserv to fuel academic research into involuntary singledom. This culminated in a series of academic papers by the sociologists Denise Donnelly, Elizabeth Burgess, and Laura Carpenter, among others. This feminist listserv eventually transformed into a full-blown web forum using conventional forum software called IncelSupport. Author Talmer Shockley was notably a member of IncelSupport and is featured in this documentary. Laura Carpenter is also featured. The documentary appears formally or informally associated with IncelSupport. A similar forum that existed at the time called love-shy.com had its own popular documentary. | ||
The documentary appears to be shot from a social-justice and medical perspective. Content is mostly dry and clinical, and included are highly topical discussions about mental health, the stigma of inceldom, life as an incel, and "coming out" as an incel. | |||
==Reception and Cancellation== | ==Reception and Cancellation== | ||
Various forums discussed the doc before and after development.<ref>https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://forum.virginite-tardive.fr/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D2485&prev=search</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/5x2xtt/finally_found_a_few_snippets_of_what_the_incel/ | Various forums discussed the doc before and after development.<ref>[https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://forum.virginite-tardive.fr/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D2485&prev=search French forum topic thread on ''The Incel Project''.] Retrieved 24 Feb '20</ref><ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/5x2xtt/finally_found_a_few_snippets_of_what_the_incel/ r/TheBluePill comment upon finding a few snippets of ''The Incel Project''.] Retrieved 24 Feb '20</ref><ref>[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/learn-these-weird-simple-easy-tricks-to-be-masterful-with-women-dating-gurus-will-hate-you.262122/page-5 Spacebattle Forum thread that mentions ''The Incel Project''.] Retrieved 24 Feb '20</ref> One of the forum reviews was positive and talked about a Laura Carpenter interview. They said she talks about involuntary celibacy leading to more involuntary celibacy since the individual's self-esteem is lowered the longer he or she lives with it, and possible partners being turned off by the seeming oddity of an older virgin. | ||
Production halted sometimes between 2012-2014. In 2014, a forum user of a separate forum called PUAhate.com (pick-up-artist hate.com) named Elliot Rodger went on a shooting spree in the name of self-professed involuntary singledom. | Production halted sometimes between 2012-2014. In 2014, a forum user of a separate forum called PUAhate.com (pick-up-artist hate.com) named Elliot Rodger went on a shooting spree in the name of self-professed involuntary singledom. This event may have precipitated the cancellation of the release of this documentary, even though IncelSupport denied Elliot Rodger was an active member of their forum. However, the series was removed from Blip.tv for unknown reasons at least two months before the shooting, and perhaps the director simply gave up on the project for other reasons.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20140325130317/http://blip.tv/removed Archived Blip.tv page saying that the documentary series was removed.] Retrieved 24 Feb '20</ref> | ||
===Unreleased Final Cut=== | ===Unreleased Final Cut=== | ||
Two drafts of the final cut were released | Two drafts of the final cut were released. However, from Webarchive, it is unclear whether a final cut was released or not. | ||
==Availability== | ==Availability== | ||
Most info from the web series is available from | Most info from the web series is available from Internet Archive snapshots of the channel on Blip.tv. Only segments of 2 interviews survive, and not the full footage of those 2 interviews that were released. These found segments contain psychologist and advocate for love-shy men named Brian Gilmartin, as well as a segment of an interview of author Talmer Shockley. Outside of the Gilmartin and Shockley footage, the rest is lost. | ||
There have been efforts to preserve Blip.tv content before it | There have been efforts to preserve Blip.tv content before it shut down in 2015. Efforts to find these documentaries in Blip.tv archives have not come to anything as of February 2020. | ||
==Episodes== | ==Episodes== | ||
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! style="background-color:lightblue" | Status | ! style="background-color:lightblue" | Status | ||
|- | |- | ||
|1|| | |1||Dr. Gilmartin||16:57||June 28th, 2008||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|2|| | |2||IncelSupport Member, 40||14:29||July 22nd, 2008||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|3|| | |3||IncelSupport Member, Mid-30s||22:06||October 1st, 2008||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|4|| | |4||Two Friends||12:18|||June 26th, 2008||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|5|| | |5||Texas Interview||38:07||July 27th, 2009||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|6|| | |6||IncelSupport Member, early-40s||21:03||Sept 7th, 2009||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|7|| | |7||College Student||47:55||Oct 26th, 2009||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|8|| | |8||Gay Man, late-40s||10:37||Jan 6th, 2011||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|9|| | |9||IncelSupport Member, Late-30s||18:43||Nov 30th, 2011||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|10|| | |10||IncelSupport Member, Late-30s||15:37||Jan 29th, 2012||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|11|| | |11||Draft #1<ref name="draft"/>||?||?||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|12|| | |12||Draft #2<ref name="draft"/>||?||?||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13|| | |13||Final Cut||?||?||<span style="color:gray;">'''Existence Unconfirmed''' | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Gallery== | ==Gallery== | ||
===Dr. Gilmartin=== | |||
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|service2 =dailymotion | |description1 =Clip from ''Dr. Gilmartin'' (second gen copy). | ||
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|description2 =Clip from ''Dr. Gilmartin'' (third gen copy). | |||
}} | |||
===Incel Support Member, 40=== | |||
{{Video|perrow =2 | |||
|service1 =dailymotion | |||
|id1 =x2nyo4g | |||
|description1 =Clip from ''Incel Support Member, 40'' (second gen copy). | |||
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|id2 =Na5Pp4i6ImA | |||
|description2 =Clip from ''Incel Support Member, 40'' (third gen copy). | |||
}} | }} | ||
==External Link== | |||
*http://archive.is/5Lpqt | |||
==References== | ==References== | ||
{{reflist}} | {{reflist|2}} | ||
[[Category:Lost internet media]] | [[Category:Lost internet media|Incel Project]] | ||
[[Category:Partially found media]] | [[Category:Partially found media|Incel Project]] | ||
[[Category:Existence unconfirmed|Incel Project]] |
Revision as of 03:48, 13 January 2021
The Incel Project was a TV-MA rated, Blip.tv original documentary series released from 2008-2012.[1] It was being made by an unknown person with the email incel57@yahoo.com,[2] possibly a member of the early feminist incel forum called IncelSupport. The doc was featured in the "original series" section of Blip.tv (now defunct), a seemingly curated section of the site. The documentary's non-Blip.tv homepage was involuntarycelibacy.com (now defunct). Non-draft or non-final-cut episodes appear to be straight interviews and often exceeded 20 minutes. The series was released as a work-in-progress to be assembled into a condensed final cut documentary, perhaps with other footage.[3] At least 2 different drafts of a final cut were also uploaded to Blip.tv and released.[4] Almost all footage associated with this doc series is lost.
Background and Contents
In 1997, Alana created the Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project as an academic project and email listserv to fuel academic research into involuntary singledom. This culminated in a series of academic papers by the sociologists Denise Donnelly, Elizabeth Burgess, and Laura Carpenter, among others. This feminist listserv eventually transformed into a full-blown web forum using conventional forum software called IncelSupport. Author Talmer Shockley was notably a member of IncelSupport and is featured in this documentary. Laura Carpenter is also featured. The documentary appears formally or informally associated with IncelSupport. A similar forum that existed at the time called love-shy.com had its own popular documentary.
The documentary appears to be shot from a social-justice and medical perspective. Content is mostly dry and clinical, and included are highly topical discussions about mental health, the stigma of inceldom, life as an incel, and "coming out" as an incel.
Reception and Cancellation
Various forums discussed the doc before and after development.[5][6][7] One of the forum reviews was positive and talked about a Laura Carpenter interview. They said she talks about involuntary celibacy leading to more involuntary celibacy since the individual's self-esteem is lowered the longer he or she lives with it, and possible partners being turned off by the seeming oddity of an older virgin.
Production halted sometimes between 2012-2014. In 2014, a forum user of a separate forum called PUAhate.com (pick-up-artist hate.com) named Elliot Rodger went on a shooting spree in the name of self-professed involuntary singledom. This event may have precipitated the cancellation of the release of this documentary, even though IncelSupport denied Elliot Rodger was an active member of their forum. However, the series was removed from Blip.tv for unknown reasons at least two months before the shooting, and perhaps the director simply gave up on the project for other reasons.[8]
Unreleased Final Cut
Two drafts of the final cut were released. However, from Webarchive, it is unclear whether a final cut was released or not.
Availability
Most info from the web series is available from Internet Archive snapshots of the channel on Blip.tv. Only segments of 2 interviews survive, and not the full footage of those 2 interviews that were released. These found segments contain psychologist and advocate for love-shy men named Brian Gilmartin, as well as a segment of an interview of author Talmer Shockley. Outside of the Gilmartin and Shockley footage, the rest is lost.
There have been efforts to preserve Blip.tv content before it shut down in 2015. Efforts to find these documentaries in Blip.tv archives have not come to anything as of February 2020.
Episodes
# | Episode Title | Runtime | Release Date | Status |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Dr. Gilmartin | 16:57 | June 28th, 2008 | Partially Found |
2 | IncelSupport Member, 40 | 14:29 | July 22nd, 2008 | Partially Found |
3 | IncelSupport Member, Mid-30s | 22:06 | October 1st, 2008 | Lost |
4 | Two Friends | 12:18 | June 26th, 2008 | Lost |
5 | Texas Interview | 38:07 | July 27th, 2009 | Lost |
6 | IncelSupport Member, early-40s | 21:03 | Sept 7th, 2009 | Lost |
7 | College Student | 47:55 | Oct 26th, 2009 | Lost |
8 | Gay Man, late-40s | 10:37 | Jan 6th, 2011 | Lost |
9 | IncelSupport Member, Late-30s | 18:43 | Nov 30th, 2011 | Lost |
10 | IncelSupport Member, Late-30s | 15:37 | Jan 29th, 2012 | Lost |
11 | Draft #1[4] | ? | ? | Lost |
12 | Draft #2[4] | ? | ? | Lost |
13 | Final Cut | ? | ? | Existence Unconfirmed |
Gallery
Dr. Gilmartin
Incel Support Member, 40
External Link
References
- ↑ Archived Blip.tv page for The Incel Project. Retrieved 24 Feb '20
- ↑ Archived Involuntary Celibacy page that has the contacts. Retrieved 24 Feb '20
- ↑ Archived page 4 of the Involuntary Celibacy website. Retrieved 24 Feb '20
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 Archived page that shows the existence of draft #1 & #2 at bottom, Retrieved 25 Feb '20
- ↑ French forum topic thread on The Incel Project. Retrieved 24 Feb '20
- ↑ r/TheBluePill comment upon finding a few snippets of The Incel Project. Retrieved 24 Feb '20
- ↑ Spacebattle Forum thread that mentions The Incel Project. Retrieved 24 Feb '20
- ↑ Archived Blip.tv page saying that the documentary series was removed. Retrieved 24 Feb '20