Wii Startup Disc (lost software disc; 2006)


Wii Startup Disc
The screen asking for the Startup Disc to be inserted.
The screen asking for the Startup Disc to be inserted.
Status Lost

The Wii Startup Disc was a disc containing a firmware upgrade for the Nintendo Wii console, seemingly intended to be shipped with the very first retail Wii units. While the disc ultimately ended up primarily being shipped to stores for use in demo kiosks, some Wiis sold at retail required the disc and did not have it, while an even smaller subset of Wiis sold at retail came with the disc. Despite this, the physical disc has not been found, nor has a rip of it been found. However, a NAND dump of a console needing the Startup Disc to operate has been found, allowing us to study how the Wii console responded to the disc, allowing us to learn more about the disc's possible content. It has been discovered that the disc contained a config, copyright marker, and key of some sort, which are read by the startup disc menu and determine the actions that it takes.

NAND dump

The NAND dump of the console needing the Startup Disc was dumped by Bushing in 2010, and was since uploaded by Larsenv.[1]

The NAND binary was dumped online by Blushing, before his passing.[2]

This can be ran on Dolphin, however as of writing it will not work on revisions released after (and including) 5.0-2127.

  • Go to Config > Paths > Wii NAND Root and set the directory to the one containing this NAND.
  • Go to Config > Audio and change that to DSP LLE interpreter.
  • Click on "Tools", then "Load Wii System Menu."
  • The Startup Disc screen will show up.

Files from NAND dump

The .wad file of the menu was extracted from the NAND dump, as well as the .brsar file for the menu, and the .arc file for the menu.[3]

Description

While the Wii Startup Disc was rumored to be required for the console's initial startup in pre-release rumors, and the disc was shown on the initial versions of the Wii box, it was never shipped to the vast majority of customers.[4]

According to an old blog post on a now abandoned Wii hacking blog called HackMii, a developer discovered that a very few early Nintendo Wii units shipped to customers required the disc, even though no such disc was provided. Apparently, said units that required the disc were accidentally shipped to customers, and had to be sent back to Nintendo to be fixed. As most of the very few purchased by customers were sent back, there exist very few Wii units that require it.[5]

Also according to the HackMii post, the final version of the Wii firmware (Wii Menu) has a check built in that checks any disc inserted to insure its internal disc ID does not match the one of the Startup Disc. If it does, the firmware will refuse to boot the disc- this was most likely implemented to prevent people from using the disc twice to downgrade. The disc ID in question is "RAAE"—it is known that this is the ID of the startup disc as a Wii with the error message will boot discs modified to have their ID as RAAE.

Reddit user discusses seeing and using the Startup Disc.
Back of early Wii box with "Wii Startup Disc" listed.

While very few Wii units that required the disc were shipped to customers, a substantially higher amount were shipped to retailers to be used for kiosk demos, along with the disc—there are reports of sightings of the screen on store kiosks in late 2006, and employees at stores such as GameStop from around that time also have reported seeing and using the disc.

Blurry photo of startup disc prompt on kiosk unit.

While the Wii Startup Disc error message is not lost and has been thoroughly documented, the disc itself is lost. While it is known that the disc was just a software system update, the specific content of the disc is unknown as the disc did not ship with any systems that were purchased by consumers (as far as is known), and it is unknown if any retailers are still in possession of the disc. No concrete info, physical copy, or digital rip of the disc has surfaced, although it is likely that Nintendo is still in possession of copies of the disc.


Reddit accounts

Upon posting this article on Reddit again for the Wii's 10th anniversary, Reddit user Djarum who worked at retail during that time and saw/used the disc has come forth. He reports that those in the media who got pre-release units had to use the discs as well, and that it was a big topic within the industry at the time. The discs were properly pressed with silkscreened labels, and came with usage instructions. However, there are some discrepancies in his report, namely in that there were reportedly options to install the retail or demo firmware, which does not match up with what is known about the disc's behavior. As such, it is theoretically possible that there are different variants to the disc, one of them booting into software code and offering a selection. This would explain how the Startup Disc menu can both install content directly from the menu and boot into discs to run the content on the disc, however there are other possible explanations for this (such as the ability to boot discs being used internally by Nintendo for testing) and as such it is not proof that this was the case.

"Excalibur0123" on Reddit claims to remember owning the disc, however neither him nor his family worked in retail and he does not remember seeing the error screen. However, this claim has not been backed up, so it is uncertain if he actually did own the disc. If he did, this would be a case of the disc being shipped to customers, possibly in a mixup of some sort.[6]

A user "ProfFurryPaws" on Reddit has commented claiming that he worked on the Nintendo assembly line just before Wii launch, with some intriguing comments related to the disc.[7] His comment reads as follows:

"That startup disc may very well have been seen in the earliest of the demo kiosks, but not in retail boxes. The disc would not have been seen or required in the wild, at least not in North America. I was one of the folks that worked on a Nintendo assembly line the fall of 2006 for the Wii Launch. My main job for the first few weeks before launch was programming the launch systems with the final firmware. We'd get pallets of systems in their boxes fresh off the trucks from the docks in Seattle, and we'd have to depalletize them, pull out the system, and run it down the belt. There were dozens of folks that would pull a fresh Wii from the line, unwrap it, plug it into power at their station, load a flash disc and SD card, then load a firmware disc, and then re-wrap it in the foam-paper sleeve and put it pack on the line (sideways to differentiate). The systems at the end of the line would then be put back into their boxes which were carried on a different line. Along with flashing the firmware on the Wii hardware we had to open all the boxes fresh from manufacturing to inset the paper manual bundle (and copy of Wii Sports) into the box, as those were printed separately from the hardware manufacturing. And also slap a sticker on the corner of the box, due to some legal change for a text callout on the launch system boxes. Then the repacked Wii boxes would be repalletized and put on a different truck to go the various retailer distribution centers or to air-freight to the east coast. The whole depalletize-unpack-flash-repack-repalletize process got down to about 8-9 minutes once we got going. We were timed and were given efficiency goals. We were also at the mercy of the trucks coming from the docks too. A truck stuck in traffic on the 5 meant that we had a sudden 10-15 minute break. (and then on to the next truckfull) Man, I haven't thought about that in years... IIRC, there were 3 such lines in West coast facilities. Two in Washington and one in California. Why did this happen this way? Because the hardware manufacturing and overseas shipping takes time, so it was started months in advance of product launch. The final launch firmware however was probably finished only days before we started flashing systems and sending to retailers for the launch of the console. Which was only about 3 weeks before launch."

This would indicate that the disc was NEVER shipped to customers, meaning that any previous accounts of customers seeing the disc are most likely fake.

ProfFurryPaws replied once again, this time with internal info related to the Wii launch manufacturing process that has, as far as can be seen, never been mentioned publicly before.

His message reads as follows: "I'm saying the startup disc was likely only used in the retail demo kiosks, as those would have been assembled and distributed before the final system software was ready. So I'd guess that disc was probably prepped to launch the console and provide the basic system needed to play the demo discs that ware made. The discs that we used were not the startup disc that is pictured in the article, but as I said it was 10 years ago, and I'm pretty sure they were red. And the onscreen prompts were very basic text menus. As I recall, the first step was using a red disc and SD card, and then when prompted onscreen, swapping the disc out with a burned disc which probably contained the final OS and firmware updates. This first red disc was likely the boot loader that enabled the system to pull the updates for the system from the second disc, with the SD card acting as a key or swap file. We started the process of flashing of systems in late October before the mid-November console launch, and that continued until about early December. That was when the manufacturing process had caught up to us with the final software already installed on the systems. After that the workforce was cut back and we were down to just stuffing the print manual and Wii Sports disc materials into the boxes and repalletizing them for retail distribution. I worked in that warehouse for just over 3 months. It was definitely an interesting experience seeing that side of the video game industry. The crew that worked on the line that first month got tshirts to celebrate the hard work that we did getting the system out for the launch of the console. I bought my Wii console during that first week of launch, right from the company store across the street. So there's about a 1-in-30 chance that the Wii I have today is one that I personally handled and updated on that assembly line."

Note: This info appears to have never been publicly seen before!

What this provides us with:

There were 2 discs- a red initial disc, and a burned firmware disc. The red disc would be inserted into initial unflashed Wii units along with an SD card (as a "digital key" of sorts), from where the red disc would be swapped with a firmware disc which would then load on the Wii firmware.

Despite what Bushing said in his HackMii post, the Startup Disc was NOT used during console assembly-instead, unique internal discs were used. While these have not resurfaced, they cannot be considered "lost" as unlike the Startup Disc they were never released or planned to be released.

The Startup Disc was used exclusively for store kiosks and was not used on the assembly line. It is most likely a firmware disc that installs the initial system menu, with the Startup Disc error screen being somewhat akin to the "red disc" he mentioned in terms of its purpose.

WiiChat account

Another account of the disc has surfaced, from a forum in 2006. However, it seems rather fake and cannot be verified, although it is possible that it is legitimate.[8] The account reads:

"Alright guys i think i got it, i have a source who works at a retail warehouse for a major distributor (lets call this individual Wii-man)

And what wii-man and his compondrays managed to do was "borrow" a few wii's They took them back to headquarters, set them up and offered this tid-bit of info.

"I have a Nintendo Wii and the Wii startup disc is true. All it does is setup your Wii account. It also prevents theft because the CD has a unique code that only works on your console. Even though I have the Wii console, I have no idea what the final secret is but I am guessing it is about portability because why would they give theft protection…Also I just wanted to add that, it does update your console with this disk. I checked the manual and it says that… "

There you go I'm working on getting scans of the manual"

If this account is legitimate (somewhat unlikely) this would indicate that:

The original version of the Wii Manual, although possibly a version not shipped to customers, mentioned the Startup Disc (one of the Startup Disc screens mentions consulting the manual, so this is very likely even if this account is fake)

There was some sort of "theft protection" in the disc that made it console-exclusive for an unknown reason

The disc also "sets up your wii account", although it is unclear what this actually means, possibly related to online features or initial settings (both of which are handled without any disc in final Wiis)

While this account is not likely to be legitimate, it is noteworthy as it may contain valuable info on the disc if it is.

NAND found

Larsenv, a Wii homebrew developer, uploaded the NAND (system memory) of a console that requires the Startup Disc and posted it to this article.

Gallery

Video of the Startup Disc error message.

References

Comments


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Tomatohentai

11 months ago
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I remember seeing this screen somewhere when I was little. I know it wasn't the console my family had got on Christmas of 2006, because while my parents remember seeing it as well, they don't remember having to return our Wii.
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Anonymous user #3

10 months ago
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and i have 3 copies of uncharted 5
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TheYoshiState

10 months ago
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What do you mean exactly by "uncharted 5"?
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Tomatohentai

10 months ago
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You do know there were people who'd actually seen the "insert disc" screen because of seeing kiosk Wiis with the screen, right? It's literally in the article. I'm fairly sure that's how I'd seen the screen when I was a kid.
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Anonymous user #1

11 months ago
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Alright, I swear one of my buddies who worked at Walmart back then had a Wii being set up that had this screen on it. Not sure if he had the disc or not, but I'll update if needed.
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Anonymous user #2

11 months ago
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cry clown here, and cool
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Anonymous user #4

10 months ago
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I have this.
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Larsenv

10 months ago
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I have this.
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Anonymous user #12

2 days ago
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you have the startup disc ?
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SenaUW

10 months ago
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Why has this been moved to "Partially found media"? All that has been uploaded is the NAND that causes the console to display the message, zero data of the actual disc was found.
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Anonymous user #5

10 months ago
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i saw the screen when i was little in a walmart. I never knew how rare that screen and disks were until now, it sort of left my mind until today. Crazy!
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Anonymous user #6

9 months ago
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don't think we should really care about Wii startup discs.
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JonM313

9 months ago
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In my opinion, we should care about every piece of lost media
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Emolga-girl

9 months ago
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This wiki is about documenting lost media. Whether or not you care is not our concern.
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Spotlght is ok

7 months ago
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Hi! Larsenv linked me to this article and I'd like to note the NAND was not found by Larsenv. It was actually found by bushing, given to PokeAcer and then Larsenv got it from him and uploaded it. For proof, check https://poke...t24.net/wii/ which says "(RIP bushing - bushing gave me the Startup Disc as a NAND BIN) " and then furthermore this conversation: larsenv Really >>taking credit for finding the Startup Disc NAND you better not have shared it. @Larsenv Larsenv - Today at 1:33 PM @ビリーせんぱい why not ビリーせんぱい - Today at 1:33 PM

BECAUSE I DIDN'T GIVE YOU PERMISSION"
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Spotlght is ok

7 months ago
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Never mind, it was fixed by Larsenv.
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RedBees

7 months ago
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Sorry, Larsenv gave me the NAND so I assumed he found it from a separate system than the one Bushing found, didn't realize they were the same. Larsenv already fixed it as you said, though.
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Anonymous user #7

4 months ago
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WiiChat? So why didn't they file a lawsuit against Tencent for releasing the app WeChat if they were so similar in name?
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Anonymous user #8

2 months ago
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I must say, I never encountered such thing, as my Wii was perfectly fine since the start, as it was a late one...
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Anonymous user #8

2 months ago
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I also don't remember seeing it anywhere at all, and my Wii was bought second-hand anyway, as for example, the seller didn't at all include the Wii Sports disc it normally would come with, as well as the stand.
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Anonymous user #9

2 months ago
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Fuck
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Anonymous user #10

2 months ago
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I worked with the guy that makes that video to help him make it. That';s not a real startup disc. It's a burned disc and the menu isn't even doing what it's supposed to in that video (see the update messages above).
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Anonymous user #11

1 months ago
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I have the startup disc! Send photo?
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RedBees

1 months ago
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If you're serious, please send a photo of it and an ISO image if possible.
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SkjerCZ

1 months ago
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That Anonymous user#11 Was my brother. He make prank on this. We dont have disc but we have INFORMATION about disc.

Disc si Called Wii menu installater. Disc have 3.44 GB

(Sorry for English. Im from Czech republic)
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RedBees

1 months ago
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How do you have this information?
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SkjerCZ

1 months ago
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My Friend was working in nintendo of america. He was on the wii launch but he get fired on 2013 when wii U was Failure. He tell me about this. Because he work on Data disc and he tell me there was unreleased disc. the disc is called Wii Menu installater or Wii Startup Disc and disc have 3.44 GB.

I hope it helped You :3
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Mimitchi33

16 days ago
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Oh my god, I think I actually had a disc like that when I was younger. Don't know what happened to it...
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Anonymous user #12

2 days ago
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please find them
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