Altador Cup "goal poses" (partially lost images of Neopets characters; 2006-2024)

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Altador Cup Goal Poses.jpg

A screenshot of Mirsha Grelinek scoring a goal against Fanetti in the Altador Cup II.

Status: Partially Lost


The '"Altador Cup goal poses'" is the informal nickname given to a set of images that would appear when the player makes a goal in the Yooyuball web browser game on the virtual world website Neopets.

Notably exclusive to these images are the Jelly World Practice Team, a set of characters that since 2008, consisted entirely of Jelly Chias. However, an earlier set of characters otherwise exclusive to these images consisting of Jelly colored versions of five different Neopet species existed. In 2006, they would consist of a Kougra and a Kau, and would be updated to include the rest of the roster in 2007 to depict a Blumaroo, an Usul, and a Techo.

Image Guide

Player name Status Source
"Brains" Mortigan Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
"Dasher" Soley (2006) Found 2006 version of Yooyuball
"Dasher" Soley (2008) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
"Dirty" Navers Found Yooyuball- How to score
"Poke" Cellers Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
"Scrap" Taggert Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
"Spikes" Barmie Found 2014 version of tyrannia.swf
"Squeaky" Tressif (Brightvale) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
"Squeaky" Tressif (Roo Island) Found 2014 version of rooisland.swf
"Trapper" Remis Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
"Wizard" Windelle Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Aldric Beign Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
Antola Maeir Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Autrey Fulse Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Babolino Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Barit Jowes Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Bertie Shurtz Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Camila Cardenas Found 2024 Dacardia player spritesheet
Ciona Broan (2008) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Ciona Broan (2011) Found 2014 version of faerieland.swf
Clutch Billaban Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Coco Metrone (Krawk Island, 2014) Found 2014 version of krawkisland.swf
Coco Metrone (Krawk Island, 2021) Found 2021 Krawk Island player spritesheet
Coco Metrone (Kreludor) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Crade Talvos Found 2014 version of hauntedwoods.swf
Delma Harrence (2007) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Delma Harrence (2011) Found 2014 version of faerieland.swf
Derbi Azar Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Derlyn Fonnet Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Ditan Colb (Goalkeeper) Found 2007 version of Yooyuball
Ditan Colb (Scorer) Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
Dorina Hals Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Ealyn Hawkshanks (Krawk Island) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Ealyn Hawkshanks (Kreludor, 2014) Found 2014 version of kreludor.swf
Ealyn Hawkshanks (Kreludor, 2021) Found 2021 Kreludor player spritesheet
Elbin Kroe (Faerieland) Found 2014 version of faerieland.swf
Elbin Kroe (Terror Mountain) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Elbin Kroe (Tyrannia) Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
Elbin Towse Lost
Elon Huglis Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Erli Quinnock (Brightvale) Found 2008 version of Yooyuball
Erli Quinnock (Kiko Lake) Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Ethel Boortz ('21 - '24) Found 2021 Meridell player spritesheet
Ethel Boortz (2013) Found 2014 version of meridell.swf
Evrem Guilako (Terror Mountain) Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
Evrem Guilako (Tyrannia) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Fanetti Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Feldon "Dinksy" Collibridge Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
Fenny Vail Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Filo Desenz Lost
Fiorina Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Foltaggio (Altador) Found 2014 version of altador.swf
Foltaggio (Shenkuu) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Garven Hale Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Goltron Mk. I Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Gordo Gunnels (Brightvale) Found 2014 version of brightvale.swf
Gordo Gunnels (Roo Island) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Gregorio Maille Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Harlis Neyhbol (Moltara, 2013) Found 2014 version of moltara.swf
Harlis Neyhbol (Moltara, 2021) Found 2021 Tyrannia player spritesheet
Harlis Neyhbol (Tyrannia) Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Helmo Timm Lost
Holbie Pinnock Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Ilsa Elits Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Jair Tollet Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Jarek "The Rock" Found 2024 Dacardia player spritesheet
Jelly Blumaroo Found Privated YouTube video
Jelly Chia (Goalie, 2008) Found 2008 version of Yooyuball
Jelly Chia (Goalie, 2011) Found 2014 version of practiceteam.swf
Jelly Chia (Scorer) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Jelly Kau Found 2006 version of Yooyuball
Jelly Kougra Found 2007 version of Yooyuball
Jelly Techo Found Screenshot from My Neopets and Me Blog
Jelly Usul Lost
Jurin T. Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Kakoni Worrill (2006) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Kakoni Worrill (2011) Found 2014 version of faerieland.swf
Kayn Hirek Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Keetra Deile Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Kep Bonnefie Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Krell Vitor Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Lamelle Turow (Lost Desert) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Lamelle Turow (Maraqua) Found 2014 version of maraqua.swf
Larcy Phu Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Layton Vickles Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Leera Heggle Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Lili Lever Found 2022 Kiko Lake player spritesheet
Lilo Blumario Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Lor Benneveldt Found 2008 verdion of Yooyuball
Loryche Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Luvea Trivon Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Lyvon Cibaire Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Magnus Byte Found 2024 Dacardia player spritesheet
Maital Koric Lost
Meela Kitah (2008) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Meelah Kitah (2006) Found 2006 version of Yooyuball
Minae Mitora Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Mirsha Grelinek Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Moni Vyshan Lost
Montecito Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Mor Gollog (Moltara) Found 2010 version of Yooyuball 2010 version of Yooyuball]
Mor Gollog (Tyrannia, 2013) Found 2014 version of tyrannia.swf
Mor Gollog (Tyrannia, 2021) Found 2021 Tyrannia player spritesheet
Motor Dahy Found 2022 Kreludor player spritesheet
Mungo Lifler Found 2006 version of Yooyuball
Nitri Cassale Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Orie Dinelle (2006) Found 2007 version of Yooyuball
Orie Dinelle (2010) Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Osielle Lidel Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Oten Runeu Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Prytariel Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Qlydae Wegg Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Reb Weemelott Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Reshar Collifey Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Rhee Solters Found 2014 version of lostdesert.swf
Rinok Fitel Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Ruffaele "Rowdy" Roo Found 2024 Dacardia player spritesheet
Salayne Ritad Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Sela Pretore Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Selmon Woulf Found 2014 version of mysteryisland.swf
Selwick Phoss Lost
Sir Pollonaire Freidl Found 2007 version of Yooyuball
Tandrak Shaye (2006) Found 2006 version of Yooyuball
Tandrak Shaye (2008) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Teylor Nix Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Timu (Altador) Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Timu (Shenkuu) Found 2014 version of shenkuu.swf
Tonie Plessix Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Tormo Frein Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Tulah Kisner Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
Tulay Ada Found 2022 Mystery Island player spritesheet
Turo Rafels Found Screenshot from My Neopets and Me Blog
Tyrra Tamina Found 2024 Dacardia player spritesheet
Valtonous Rea (2007) Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Valtonous Rea (2011) Found 2014 version of faerieland.swf
Vela Binal Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Vere Polnicek Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
Volgoth Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Vonde Cayle Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Wan Dirx Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Weldar Xupenfarb Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Whimsi Dia Found 2021 Faerieland player spritesheet
Wila Benne Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Winberto Seliz Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Xana DiLanche Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Xila Kitae Found 2006 version of Yooyuball
XL Striker 3.8 Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Yaniq Avaan Found 2007 version of Yooyuball
Yoris Obbles Found 2010 version of Yooyuball
Z-4B Goalinator Found 2007 version of Yooyuball
Zax Bannet Found 2010 version of teamscorer.swf
Zayle Hufaux Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Zenor Kevix Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf
Zo Junior Found 2008 version of teamscorer.swf

History

On June 1st, 2006, the Altador Cup event was announced to take place, coinciding with the then upcoming 2006 FIFA World Cup. Signups began on June 3rd, 2006 and would allow players to play the game of Yooyuball to practice for the upcoming season. Whenever the player scored a goal, one of the teammates would always appear to represent a team when scoring, and these images were stored locally within the Yooyuball's files.

While the Altador Cup was intended to coincide with each real life FIFA World Cup event and take plave every 4 years, it's popularity led to it becoming an annual event beginning with it's return in 2007Cite error: Closing </ref> missing for <ref> tag, the teamscorer.swf file would be updated to replace Maital Koric with Vela Binal, who was removed due to being injured in-universe.[1].

In 2008, the .swf file for Yooyuball would be drastically updated for a variety of changes to improve immersion and user experience, and would now recall the teamscorer.swf file from a different directory, https://images.neopets.com/games/altador_yooyu/2008/teamscorer.swf This was presumably done to keep the original teamscorer.swf file intact at the time.

In preparation for the fifth Altador Cup event in 2010, the game was updated to accomodate 18 competing teams with the introduction of Team Moltara. the original teamscorer.swf was overwritten with a work-in-progress version of the new roster, which remains in this state to this day. It is possible that it was overwritten at an earlier date, but this was never documented to be the case. Regardless, a finalized version of teamscorer.swf would be published to the directory https://images.neopets.com/games/altador_yooyu/2010/teamscorer.swf

In 2011, the Yooyuball game would begin being significantly reworked internally with prototyping starting in March 2011.[2] Starting with this version, the goal poses would be stored alongside player sprites in a new directory, https://images.neopets.com/games/g1288/altador.swf with each file being named by each competing team. The goalkeeper image would also be stored in these files instead of the base game going forward. When team rosters were updated, the accompanying team .swf file would be updated to reflect this, replacing the original file, in contrast to the 2008 and 2010 team roster revisions being stored in their own directories on Neopets' image servers.

In 2021, the Altador Cup and its games, including Yooyuball, would be remade from it's original format of Adobe Flash to HTML5, to coincide with the discontinuation of Adobe Flash Player on December 31st, 2020. Images are now stored as .png files on Neopets image servers, and return to having separate variations that do not overwrite the originals. All of these files are indexed and can be viewed on Jellyneo's Dr. Sloth's Image Emporium.

Documentation

Users taking screenshots of their goals was a decently uncommon practice, with many users choosing to share their screenshots on image hosting services such as Photobucket and Tinypic via Neopets fan forums such as the Neopian Times Writers Forum, The Daily Neopets, and the Pink Poogle Toy Forum. The preservation of these images have deteriorated over the years with users either not paying for Photobucket subscriptions, or the closure of Tinypic on September 9th, 2019; with archived copies on places such as the Wayback Machine being sparse.

Additionally, there were a small number of people who had blogs on services such as Blogger who had shared their gameplay screenshots of Yooyuball, including goals that they've made.

As YouTube had begun to rise in popularity significantly by 2007, a notable amount of Neopets users had decided to record their gameplay and upload it to YouTube, which would invariably preserve some of the goal poses used at the time.

During the 2007 Altador Cup, the petpage "Man_eater_pikachu" would be shared on websites such as the Neopian Times Writers Forum and would contain screenshots of the Jelly Kougra and Jelly Kau, and in 2007 would be updated to include screenshots of the then newly added Jelly Blumaroo, Techo, and Usul members. Some time later, the owner of the pet page's account (pokemon_lunatic) was frozen, reverting the page to the default Kougra pet page template. This page would be used as a reference for the NeoDex Neopets Wiki hosted by Pink Poogle Toy on July 7th, 2007 by the user DreamingLady.[3]

On September 2nd, 2008, a user with an unlogged IP Address would edit the Jelly World page on the NeoDex Neopets Wiki by Pink Poogle Toy to add back the Jelly Kau's position as a forward and add that the Jelly Usul was a right forward.[4] Two days later on September 4th, 2008, another unlogged IP address would add that the Blumaroo and Techo were the right and left defenders respectively.[5] It is worth noting that by this time, the Jelly Chias had already replaced the original teammates, making the primary source of this information unavailable and was likely a fan's recollection or was sourced elsewhere.

The Jelly World Practice Team would later be documented on another Neopets fansite, Jellyneo in it's subsection dedicated to documenting lore and characters, The Book of Ages as "Practice Team". This page would repeat the information available about the Practice Team on NeoDex, including the positions of the removed members, but also included images of two of the members; the Kougra, which was sourced from a .swf file of the old Yooyuball minigame, and the Kau, of which's source is currently unknown but was likely a screenshot from a petpage.

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On September 6th, 2020, ProblematicPeriwinklePlum would email Jellyneo asking if they had the other missing teammate images, to which they responded that only waht was shown on the page was what they had. ProblematicPeriwinklePlum would later track down an image of the Jelly Blumaroo from a now privated YouTube video featuring a user losing a goal to the Practice Team the same day.

Additionally, ProblematicPeriwinklePlum had rediscovered the Man_eater_pikachu petpage link on NeoDex. It was later suggested by Jellyneo to contact pokemon_lunatic for the original images, who was still active on the Neopian Times Writers' Forum under the username Dimi in an email reply, of which ProblematicPeriwinklePlum had done. One hour later, Dimi would respond explaining that their original account was frozen and was unable to recover it, and the original images would be on an old laptop that they no longer had access to as it was in a different country, and that they were doubtful the original images still existed on said laptop.

On August 1st, 2024, ProblematicPeriwinklePlum would find that a YouTube video by Yooyuball - How to score was uploaded by the user Miłosz, which featured a screenshot of "Dirty" Navers scoring a goal against Mungo Lifler (who was mistakenly present at the time and intended to be replaced by Reshar Collifey).

That same day, the Neopets LIVE -Altador Cup Edition took place, with TNT Luna being present on the r/neopets Discord server. After the AMA session concluded, ProblematicPeriwinklePlum pinged TNT Luna to ask about the whereabouts of the original Jelly World Practice Team images as a direct message over the official Neopets Instagram account, and stated that she would pass the message along. A few hours later, the official Neopets Instagram account would reply to ProblematicPeriwinklePlum's direct message, stating:

Hi there! Thanks so much for messaging us about this. Finding lost artwork to preserve the Neopets brand is something that is important to us! We will be sure to flag this request to the art team, although can’t make any promises due to their own workload and the existing backlog of things that need to be done around the site. However once again thanks for supporting the Neopets LIVE! and being a fan of the site!

On August 14th, 2024, Reddit user u/SharpenedGemma commented that they had found the image of Jelly Techo on a blogger website, being the Me and My Neopets blog, where the owner of the blog had screenshot all of their goals, including a goal with Turo Rafels and a loss to the Jelly Techo, thereby preserving it.

On August 15th, 2024, Flashpoint Archive contributor Ganonthefreat privately messaged ProblematicPerwinklePlum via Discord that they had found the .swf for the 2006 version of Yooyuball, which featured otherwise missing or low quality images of Xila Kitae, as well as earlier variations of goal poses for other characters such as "Dasher" Soley and Meela Kitah.[6]

On August 19th, 2024, ProblematicPeriwinklePlum emailed Max van Doorn (aka Van Doodle) to ask about if he had recalled seeing any of the missing goal poses for the Altador Cup, as he was involved with the HTML5 Altador Cup revamp. The following day on August 20th, Max replied to the email stating that he did not recall seeing the images that were being searched for, and "vaguely recalled some gaps". Max van Doorn told that the TNT members Weirdough and Clammyhand would have access to the art archives for Neopets. While emails would be sent to inquire about them, neither person would yield any response.

At present, a total of 7 characters have their goal poses completely missing (Elbin Towse, Filo Desenz, Helmo Timm, Jelly Usul, Maital Koric, Moni Vyshan, and Selwick Phoss), all of which being present exclusively in the 2007 versions of teamscorer.swf.

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