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On December 29th, 1993, American rock band AFI performed a show at The Phoenix Theater in Petaluma, California. Though 5 tracks from this performance were released on the 1994 live EP ''Eddie Picnic's All Wet'', the group reportedly also performed a cover of "Ronnie Was a Rebel" parts I and II, originally from punk band Chaos UK.<ref>[https://www.discogs.com/AFI-Eddie-Picnics-All-Wet/release/9028660 Full scans and liner notes from ''Eddie Picnic's All Wet'', on Discogs.] Retrieved 13 May '19</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20111230202643/http://afinewshq.com/the-maelstrom/the-music/covers/ AFI News Headquarters list of covers by the group.] Archived 30, Dec '11. Retrieved 13 May '19</ref> The recording of this cover has become one of the rarest AFI songs ever made, as it is not on any official releases and no copies of it have surfaced on the internet.


==Introduction==
==Status==
This song could possibly be the rarest AFI song ever. The song was only performed live at The Phoenix Theater, Petaluma, California on Dec. 29, 1993. AFI fans all over the internet have been searching for any traces of anyone who might have knowledge of where the song is right now.
There is a bootleg tape under the name of ''System Failure Vol. 1'', which contains many songs from an assortment of bands. The AFI performance of "Ronnie" was included on it, according to the tracklist provided by a user who auctioned the tape on eBay for $125 USD in 2008.<ref>[https://www.popsike.com/AFI-Ronny-was-a-rebel-cassette-comp-rarest-AFI-song/220326051369.html Mirror of the 2008 eBay listing.] Retrieved 13 May '19</ref> However, there are no known rips of this tape, and no other copies have appeared for sale.


There is a bootleg tape under the name of System Failure Vol. 1, which contains many songs from an assortment of bands. The cassette tape includes an AFI cover song of Ronnie Was A Rebel/Ronnie 2 from the band Chaos UK.
In spite of the song's obscurity, multiple people have come forward to claim that they once had an MP3 copy of it that was traded around in the past, but that they have since lost it.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/AFireInside/comments/5sn3p3/is_there_a_complete_b_sides_list/ddgopev/ Reddit thread where multiple users claim they lost their copy of the song.] Retrieved 13 May '19</ref> If any fans do still have this MP3, they have not come forward with it. Additionally, there are no traces of footage of the song being performed live from the live concert in Petaluma, CA.


As of April 2014, there is no downloadable version of this song anywhere on the internet, but multiple people have come forward to claim that they own the cassette with this song on it. There are also no traces of footage of the song being performed live from the live concert in Petaluma, CA.
==Rediscovery==
On August 21st, 2015, AFI's former bassist (present at the time of recording) Geoff Kresge posted a fragment of the clip to his Instagram page.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/6qOX1hqeMXnQO-uKLopafRtAeF8sYVzGz0Nq40/] Retrieved 10 July '19</ref> While positively identified as the song appearing on System Failure, Vol. 1, the recording clearly portrays the song "Ronnie II" being performed,<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRjYMYuzWdw]</ref> meaning the labeling was likely a mistake (despite the band being known to have performed "Ronnie Was a Rebel"). Kresge has kept the entire soundboard recording to the show, as he has also pictured. Additionally, Kresge also teased other lost and unreleased AFI content, including the track "Flux Capacitor," a track which was only ever performed live, and an unknown studio track, originating from an abandoned 4 track EP.


==System Failure compilation cassette==
Kresge was documenting his process of remastering these tracks, but as of July 2019, there have been no further developments.


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#AFI - Ronnie Was A Rebel (Missing)
==External Links==
#Autonomy - Abolish Apartheid (Found)
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI_discography
#Submission - No Side (Missing)
*https://www.discogs.com/Various-System-Failure-Vol-1/release/10076238
#Naked Aggression - You're A Disgrace (Found)
*https://www.instagram.com/geoffkresge/
#Oppressed Logic - Tension (Found)
#The Randumbs - Hijack (Missing)
#Adolescents (UK) - Jelly Me Chette (Missing)
#Corrupted Ideals - Oppression With A Question (Found)
#Fight For Change - Closet Nazi (Missing)
#General Fools - Drinking Up My Mind (Found)
#Rejected Motherfu**ers - Exploitation (Missing)
#Litmus Green - Robotech (Found)
# Tha Skirts (Sean Sh*t's Band) - Too Fu**ed Up To Care (Missing)
 
B:
#The Randumbs -Daryl (Missing)
#Mickey And The Big Mouths - Society House (Missing)
#Korrupt - Tradition (Missing)
#Naked Aggression - Driven Down The Road (Found)
#Multi Facet - Wasteland (Missing)
#Armed Relapse - Day After Day (Found)
#Autonomy - Poverty And Death (Found)
#Siren - Money Changes Everything (Missing)
#Submission - Victim (Missing)
#Milkfat - a.l.bb (Missing)
#Adolescents (UK) - No-no (Missing)
#Corrupted Ideals - Westworld (Missing
#General Fools - Quesse (Found)
#Furley - Gnarlyspadokey (Missing)
#Last Round Up - Average Americans (Found)
#Korrupt - Pa Tradition (Missing)
#Black Fork - Fortune Cookie Nookie (Found)
#Tha Skirts - Mark's A Fu**in' Lush (Missing)
#Wheelchair M.F.'s - I Love Rock n' Roll (Missing)
 
==Other Covers==
 
They also did live covers too some of them are either cut off like a teaser or completed.
 
#Ronnie Was A Rebel – Chaos UK – Phoenix Theater, Petaluma, CA – Dec. 29, 1993 (Missing)
#Ronnie II – Chaos UK - Phoenix Theater, Petaluma, CA – Dec. 29, 1993 (Missing)
#Rejected – Rancid – 924 Gilman St., Berkeley, CA – December 29, 1995 (Completed)
#Mr. Brownstone – Guns ‘N Roses – 924 Gilman St., Berkeley, CA – December 29, 1995 (Incomplete)
#True Romance – Tiger Army – Phoenix Theater, Petaluma, CA – March 25, 2000 (Completed)
#We Bite – Misfits Cover – 924 Gilman St., Berkeley, CA – December 16, 1994 (Completed)
#Rio – Duran Duran Cover – BBC Radio – September 6, 2003 (Incomplete)
#My Name Is Jonas – Weezer - Sydney, Australia – August 7, 2003 (Missing)
#Song 2 – Blur – MTV New Year’s – January 1, 2007 (Complete)
#Ziggy Stardust – David Bowie – Giants Stadium, NY – July 7, 2007 (Complete)
#Just Like Heaven – The Cure – London, England – 2004 (Complete)
#No Reason – Minor Threat – Showplace Theater, Buffalo, NY – April 1, 1997 (Complete)
#Seven Nation Army – White Stripes – Glendale, AZ – December 12, 2006 (Complete)
#Nothing But A Good Time – Poison (Missing)
#Mountain Song – Jane’s Addiction (Missing)
#Comando – The Ramones (Missing)


==References==
==References==
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#http://afinewshq.com/the-maelstrom/the-music/covers/
[[Category:Lost music|Ronnie Was A Rebel/Ronnie 2]]
#http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI_discography
[[Category:Partially found media|Ronnie Was A Rebel/Ronnie 2]]
#http://www.popsike.com/AFI-Ronny-was-a-rebel-cassette-comp-rarest-AFI-song/220326051369.html
 
[[Category:Lost music]]

Latest revision as of 00:33, 5 December 2020

220326051369.jpg

The front cover of System Failure Vol. 1.

Status: Partially Found

On December 29th, 1993, American rock band AFI performed a show at The Phoenix Theater in Petaluma, California. Though 5 tracks from this performance were released on the 1994 live EP Eddie Picnic's All Wet, the group reportedly also performed a cover of "Ronnie Was a Rebel" parts I and II, originally from punk band Chaos UK.[1][2] The recording of this cover has become one of the rarest AFI songs ever made, as it is not on any official releases and no copies of it have surfaced on the internet.

Status

There is a bootleg tape under the name of System Failure Vol. 1, which contains many songs from an assortment of bands. The AFI performance of "Ronnie" was included on it, according to the tracklist provided by a user who auctioned the tape on eBay for $125 USD in 2008.[3] However, there are no known rips of this tape, and no other copies have appeared for sale.

In spite of the song's obscurity, multiple people have come forward to claim that they once had an MP3 copy of it that was traded around in the past, but that they have since lost it.[4] If any fans do still have this MP3, they have not come forward with it. Additionally, there are no traces of footage of the song being performed live from the live concert in Petaluma, CA.

Rediscovery

On August 21st, 2015, AFI's former bassist (present at the time of recording) Geoff Kresge posted a fragment of the clip to his Instagram page.[5] While positively identified as the song appearing on System Failure, Vol. 1, the recording clearly portrays the song "Ronnie II" being performed,[6] meaning the labeling was likely a mistake (despite the band being known to have performed "Ronnie Was a Rebel"). Kresge has kept the entire soundboard recording to the show, as he has also pictured. Additionally, Kresge also teased other lost and unreleased AFI content, including the track "Flux Capacitor," a track which was only ever performed live, and an unknown studio track, originating from an abandoned 4 track EP.

Kresge was documenting his process of remastering these tracks, but as of July 2019, there have been no further developments.

Only existing fragment of Ronnie II.

Geoff Kresge's soundboard recording of the performance in question.

External Links

References

  1. ↑ Full scans and liner notes from Eddie Picnic's All Wet, on Discogs. Retrieved 13 May '19
  2. ↑ AFI News Headquarters list of covers by the group. Archived 30, Dec '11. Retrieved 13 May '19
  3. ↑ Mirror of the 2008 eBay listing. Retrieved 13 May '19
  4. ↑ Reddit thread where multiple users claim they lost their copy of the song. Retrieved 13 May '19
  5. ↑ [1] Retrieved 10 July '19
  6. ↑ [2]
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