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(a song listed here was found today so i updated the article to reflect it. ill include information on their already widely available tapes relatively soon)
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Since their formation, they have recorded '''''numerous demo tapes and songs''''' alongside their official releases. While most of their extensive demo-and-outtake discography is widely available and shared on platforms such as YouTube and, formerly, Browntracker (a site dedicated to sharing live shows and demos from the band), there are some songs and even entire tapes that have yet to resurface. Some songs were known to be played on Weenradio, and others shared on file-sharing site WeenFTP.<ref>[https://alt.music.ween.narkive.com/gn4ZbwZG/special-broadcast Post regarding the status of a Weenradio broadcast containing certain songs listed in the article.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref> Unfortunately, certain Weenradio broadcasts aren't known to have been recorded and WeenFTP has long since been rendered inoperative. Further complicating matters is the lack of information for a majority of the tapes.
Since their formation, they have recorded '''''numerous demo tapes and songs''''' alongside their official releases. While most of their extensive demo-and-outtake discography is widely available and shared on platforms such as YouTube and, formerly, Browntracker (a site dedicated to sharing live shows and demos from the band), there are some songs and even entire tapes that have yet to resurface. Some songs were known to be played on Weenradio, and others shared on file-sharing site WeenFTP.<ref>[https://alt.music.ween.narkive.com/gn4ZbwZG/special-broadcast Post regarding the status of a Weenradio broadcast containing certain songs listed in the article.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref> Unfortunately, certain Weenradio broadcasts aren't known to have been recorded and WeenFTP has long since been rendered inoperative. Further complicating matters is the lack of information for a majority of the tapes.


==Known Lost Tapes<ref>[https://rateyourmusic.com/list/itlungylung/ween-rarities-and-oddities/ A comprehensive list of known rare Ween releases, including lost ones.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>==
==Known Tapes<ref>[https://rateyourmusic.com/list/itlungylung/ween-rarities-and-oddities/ A comprehensive list of known rare Ween releases, including lost ones.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>==
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
|-
! style="background-color:green" |
! style="background-color:green" | Tape
! style="background-color:green" | Tape
! style="background-color:green" | Recorded
! style="background-color:green" | Recorded
! style="background-color:green" | Status
! style="background-color:green" | Status
|-
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|1||Ween WAD||1985||<span style="color:grey;">'''Existence Unconfirmed'''<ref>[https://www.discogs.com/Ween-WEEN-WAD/release/13521793 Discogs entry for the alleged Ween WAD tape.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
|Ween WAD||1985||<span style="color:grey;">'''Existence Unconfirmed'''<ref>[https://www.discogs.com/Ween-WEEN-WAD/release/13521793 Discogs entry for the alleged Ween WAD tape.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
|-
|-
|2||Mrs. Slack||1985?||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|Mrs. Slack||1985?||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|-
|3||We Broke Up||1987||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|We Broke Up||1987||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|-
|4||Ween/Smersh||1987||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Ween/Smersh||1987||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|-
|5||Focus||1989?||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Focus||1989?||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|-
|6||Eindhoven EP||1990||<span style="color:orange;">'''Possibly Found'''
|Eindhoven EP||1990||<span style="color:orange;">'''Possibly Found'''
|-
|-
|7||Caprice Classic||1991||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|The Timmy Wasserman tape (AKA The Big Timmy Wasserman tape)||1991||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
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|8||Springstuff||1991||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Bilboa||1991||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
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|9||The Freedom Tape||1992||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Lost'''
|Caprice Classic||1991||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
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|10||Créme de Menthe||1993||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Springstuff||1991||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
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|11||Music for Drunk Irish Homos||1995||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|The Freedom Tape||1992||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Lost'''
|-
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|12||Various pre-1990 tapes (Kim Tulio, John Ward, The Polish Lightbulb Joke, Mike Banks)||mid-to-late 1980s||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|Chocolate and Cheese Taster Demos Summer '92||c. 1991-1992||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
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|13||Jug is Quaid||1990s?||[https://youtu.be/IyiTHcCGkyE<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found''']
|Créme de Menthe||1993||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
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|14||Various The Pod demo tapes (Pork Roll Egg and Cheese, The Stallion, Weed Whore)||Early 1990s||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Music for Drunk Irish Homos||1995||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Pandy Fackler tape||1997||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|The Long Beach Island tape||2000||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|White Pepper demos||c. 2000||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
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|Caesar demos||c. 2001-2003||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|La Cucaracha demos||c. 2005-2007||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Lost'''
|-
|Various pre-1990 tapes (Kim Tulio, John Ward, The Polish Lightbulb Joke, Mike Banks)||mid-to-late 1980s||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|Jug is Quaid||1990s?||[https://youtu.be/IyiTHcCGkyE<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found''']
|-
|Various The Pod demo tapes (Pork Roll Egg and Cheese, The Stallion, Weed Whore)||Early 1990s||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|}
|}


==Lost/Unresurfaced Songs==
==Known Lost/Unresurfaced Songs==
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! style="background-color:green" |
! style="background-color:green" | Name
! style="background-color:green" | Name
! style="background-color:green" | Tape/Sessions
! style="background-color:green" | Tape/Sessions
! style="background-color:green" | Status
! style="background-color:green" | Status
|-
|-
|1||Kevin the Honky||Music for Drunk Irish Homos||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span>
|Kevin the Honky||Music for Drunk Irish Homos||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span>
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|2||Gotta Burn on My Leg||Pure Guava Sessions||[https://youtu.be/lQBqWRQjNgI<span style="color:green;">'''Found''']
|Gotta Burn on My Leg||Pure Guava Sessions||[https://youtu.be/lQBqWRQjNgI<span style="color:green;">'''Found''']
|-
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|3||I Got It||Pure Guava sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span>
|I Got It||Pure Guava sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span>
|-
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|4||Boston Chicken||12 Golden Country Greats sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span><ref>[https://m.facebook.com/relayshack/photos/10157830484923646/ Photo shared by 12 Golden Country Greats producer Ben Vaughn, showing an early tracklisting for the album that includes the lost "Boston Chicken".] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
|Boston Chicken||12 Golden Country Greats sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span><ref>[https://m.facebook.com/relayshack/photos/10157830484923646/ Photo shared by 12 Golden Country Greats producer Ben Vaughn, showing an early tracklisting for the album that includes the lost "Boston Chicken".] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
|-
|-
|5||Louise||White Pepper sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span>
|Louise||White Pepper sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span>
|-
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|6||Streetfight||Freedom tape||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span>
|Streetfight||Freedom tape||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span>
|-
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|7||Israel||unknown||<span style="color:grey;">'''Existence Unconfirmed'''</span> (rerecorded for the Shinola, Vol. 1 compilation of rerecorded versions of demos)
|Israel||unknown||<span style="color:grey;">'''Existence Unconfirmed'''</span> (rerecorded for the Shinola, Vol. 1 compilation of rerecorded versions of demos)
|}
|}
==Status==
==Status==
The Freedom Tape is by far the most complete of the known lost tapes, but still missing several songs, including alternate versions of ''What Deaner Was Talking About'', ''Don't Shit Where You Eat'', and ''Fluffy'' and the song ''Streetfight''.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ween/comments/abc5t1/found_copy_of_freedom_tape_tracklisting/ Reddit thread about the Freedom tape's tracklist.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref> The only song to resurface (and, by extension, the only known song) from Jug is Quaid is ''Albino Sunburned Girl''. The Eindhoven EP is sometimes rumored to be a live show guitarist Dean Ween shared in 2018.<ref>[https://youtu.be/0PgNFP5YNNo YouTube upload of the live show rumored to be the Eindhoven EP.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
The Freedom Tape is by far the most complete of the known lost tapes, and even then is still missing several songs, including alternate versions of ''What Deaner Was Talking About'', ''Don't Shit Where You Eat'', and ''Fluffy'' and the song ''Streetfight''.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ween/comments/abc5t1/found_copy_of_freedom_tape_tracklisting/ Reddit thread about the Freedom tape's tracklist.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref> The only song to resurface (and, by extension, the only known song) from Jug is Quaid is ''Albino Sunburned Girl''. The Eindhoven EP is sometimes rumored to be a live show guitarist Dean Ween shared in 2018.<ref>[https://youtu.be/0PgNFP5YNNo YouTube upload of the live show rumored to be the Eindhoven EP.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
 
Certain .shn files were recovered from a WeenFTP archive by a Discord server dedicated to lost Ween media, but they turned out to be live performances that were already widely shared. The Mrs. Slack, Polish Lightbulb Joke, Kim Tulio, Mike Banks, and John Ward tapes were compiled for Prime 5, a 1988 compilation that resurfaced in 2017.


Certain .shn files were recovered from a WeenFTP archive by a Discord server dedicated to lost Ween media, but it is currently unknown exactly what songs have been recovered. The Mrs. Slack, Polish Lightbulb Joke, Kim Tulio, Mike Banks, and John Ward tapes were compiled for Prime 5, a 1988 compilation that resurfaced in 2017.
An eBay listing for Ween WAD was found in 2021, apparently in the possession of a tape collector.
An eBay listing for Ween WAD was found in 2021, apparently in the possession of a tape collector.


Revision as of 20:42, 10 May 2021

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A collection of tapes from Ween.

Status: Partially Found

Ween is an American experimental rock band formed in New Hope, Pennsylvania, in 1985. They have gained a large cult following and critical praise for their genre-hopping music, "brown" sound (drawing on psychedelic music), and crude sense of humor, among other aspects. They released 9 studio albums and 2 compilations before disbanding in 2012, eventually reforming in 2016.

Since their formation, they have recorded numerous demo tapes and songs alongside their official releases. While most of their extensive demo-and-outtake discography is widely available and shared on platforms such as YouTube and, formerly, Browntracker (a site dedicated to sharing live shows and demos from the band), there are some songs and even entire tapes that have yet to resurface. Some songs were known to be played on Weenradio, and others shared on file-sharing site WeenFTP.[1] Unfortunately, certain Weenradio broadcasts aren't known to have been recorded and WeenFTP has long since been rendered inoperative. Further complicating matters is the lack of information for a majority of the tapes.

Known Tapes[2]

Tape Recorded Status
Ween WAD 1985 Existence Unconfirmed[3]
Mrs. Slack 1985? Partially Found
We Broke Up 1987 Lost
Ween/Smersh 1987 Lost
Focus 1989? Lost
Eindhoven EP 1990 Possibly Found
The Timmy Wasserman tape (AKA The Big Timmy Wasserman tape) 1991 Found
Bilboa 1991 Found
Caprice Classic 1991 Lost
Springstuff 1991 Lost
The Freedom Tape 1992 Partially Lost
Chocolate and Cheese Taster Demos Summer '92 c. 1991-1992 Found
Créme de Menthe 1993 Lost
Music for Drunk Irish Homos 1995 Lost
Pandy Fackler tape 1997 Found
The Long Beach Island tape 2000 Found
White Pepper demos c. 2000 Found
Caesar demos c. 2001-2003 Found
La Cucaracha demos c. 2005-2007 Partially Lost
Various pre-1990 tapes (Kim Tulio, John Ward, The Polish Lightbulb Joke, Mike Banks) mid-to-late 1980s Partially Found
Jug is Quaid 1990s? Partially Found
Various The Pod demo tapes (Pork Roll Egg and Cheese, The Stallion, Weed Whore) Early 1990s Lost

Known Lost/Unresurfaced Songs

Name Tape/Sessions Status
Kevin the Honky Music for Drunk Irish Homos Lost
Gotta Burn on My Leg Pure Guava Sessions Found
I Got It Pure Guava sessions Lost
Boston Chicken 12 Golden Country Greats sessions Lost[4]
Louise White Pepper sessions Lost
Streetfight Freedom tape Lost
Israel unknown Existence Unconfirmed (rerecorded for the Shinola, Vol. 1 compilation of rerecorded versions of demos)

Status

The Freedom Tape is by far the most complete of the known lost tapes, and even then is still missing several songs, including alternate versions of What Deaner Was Talking About, Don't Shit Where You Eat, and Fluffy and the song Streetfight.[5] The only song to resurface (and, by extension, the only known song) from Jug is Quaid is Albino Sunburned Girl. The Eindhoven EP is sometimes rumored to be a live show guitarist Dean Ween shared in 2018.[6]

Certain .shn files were recovered from a WeenFTP archive by a Discord server dedicated to lost Ween media, but they turned out to be live performances that were already widely shared. The Mrs. Slack, Polish Lightbulb Joke, Kim Tulio, Mike Banks, and John Ward tapes were compiled for Prime 5, a 1988 compilation that resurfaced in 2017.

An eBay listing for Ween WAD was found in 2021, apparently in the possession of a tape collector.

References

  1. ↑ Post regarding the status of a Weenradio broadcast containing certain songs listed in the article. Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  2. ↑ A comprehensive list of known rare Ween releases, including lost ones. Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  3. ↑ Discogs entry for the alleged Ween WAD tape. Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  4. ↑ Photo shared by 12 Golden Country Greats producer Ben Vaughn, showing an early tracklisting for the album that includes the lost "Boston Chicken". Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  5. ↑ Reddit thread about the Freedom tape's tracklist. Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  6. ↑ YouTube upload of the live show rumored to be the Eindhoven EP. Retrieved 22 Apr '21
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