To Catch a Predator (partially found chatlogs, uncut interviews and police interrogations of Dateline NBC reality series; 2004-2007)
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To Catch a Predator (abbreviated to TCAP) is a hidden camera investigation series broadcast on the TV news program Dateline NBC from 2004-2007. The premise involved host Chris Hansen confronting adult men arriving at a sting house with the intent to have sex with underage teens, following an often graphic online conversation with the child. In reality, the "minors" were adult decoys from the online watchdog group Perverted Justice, who would establish online profiles of underage individuals who would wait for adults to initiate a conversation with them. Twelve investigations resulted in the arrests and convictions of most men who arrived at the sting houses. Since then, fans of the show have sought out the full episodes, podcasts, chatlogs, uncut Hansen interviews and uncut police interrogations involving these men, with these media being coveted among TCAP enthusiasts.
Background
Chatlogs are the first point of contact between a potential predator and a Perverted Justice decoy. Perverted Justice volunteers would create fake profiles pretending to be underage teens interested in sex across multiple, including MSN, AOL, notable chatrooms, and Yahoo!, and wait for adults to contact them.[1] Upon receiving contact with a potential predator, the chatlogs are recorded, where most chats will swiftly turn towards meeting up for sex. Many of the predators would describe in graphic detail what they wanted to do with the decoys while also sending pornographic pictures to them. The chatlogs were already enough to incriminate most predators, which, depending on the state, could see them be charged with a misdemeanor or a felony.[2] In the first two stings for Dateline NBC, Perverted Justice immediately posted the chatlogs upon successful busts.
However, when police were involved from the Riverside sting onwards, the watchdog would only post chatlogs where a conviction was achieved, taking down all pre-2006 chats where convictions were not made as part of the Information First scheme.[3] Nevertheless, all chatlogs from Bethpage and Fairfax are accessible through Web Archive, while because most predators were ultimately convicted in the other stings, their chatlogs are still accessible on the Perverted Justice website to the present day. However, some chatlogs were never published, usually when an acquittal has occurred, while others were not published because some predators absconded before convictions.
After agreeing online to meet in person, the predator would then enter the sting house, only to be confronted by Chris Hansen. Often, the broadcast of the segment would be edited for the sake of brevity and entertainment purposes. Nevertheless, uncut footage would sometimes be accessible. Most notably, most uncut Riverside and Ohio interviews were published on MSNBC, which was NBC's digital subscriber service.[4] While these clips can no longer be accessed on MSNBC, some have resurfaced on YouTube. Others remain missing as of the present day.
Finally, highlights of police interrogations were also shown in some broadcasts, often being the last piece of media featuring a highlighted predator. Most of those found originate from the Greenville, Flagler Beach, and Bowling Green stings and were obtained thanks to FOIA requests.[5]
The Perverted Justice website is currently down[6]; Wayback Machine screenshots or YouTube readings archive all current chat logs.
Also, tcap and temper tcaparchvist were used to find all the episodes of the highest quality available and made an archive for them. A link can be found here. https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/23905/predator-archives-2024-archival-project
Bethpage, New York
The first sting was conducted in May 2004, and 19 men showed up over three days.[7] The episode wanted to show the dangers of internet predators, a new phenomenon at the time. This pilot episode was yet to be called To Catch a Predator but rather called Dangerous Web. The episode aired in November 2004
The sting was conducted in Bethpage, Long Island, in Nassau County, NY. Hansen claims 18 men showed up, but it is 19 because an unaired predator, Greg, is sometimes not counted because he came to the sting house when the crew was not there.
Perverted Justice and Dateline NBC had not yet teamed with police to conduct a parallel investigation. So all bar Ryan Hogan, a New York City Fire Department member, were not arrested following their busts. Hogan was investigated with the Feds and would later be charged and convicted,[8] although his police interrogation video has never surfaced online. The reason why he got into trouble was that he was in a position of trust and authority. He drove off after seeing a marked police car parked near the sting but then exposed himself using the firehouse computer and allowed the feds to get involved.[9]
Another predator in this sting, paranoid schizophrenic Matt Dooley, aka "DarkHero73", was the only predator not to have his identity shown on TV and almost got charged due to his past criminal history, in which he harassed his ex-girlfriend and violated an order of protection. However, he avoided charges by recommitting to a mental institution. He would go on Joey's TCAP channel years later in 2019 with an interview and try to explain his appearance on the show. Instead, he ranted about conspiracy theories in a loose connection to NBC. [10]Also, according to Joey, Dooley privately told him that the NYPD-FBI task force was willing to charge Dooley with a crime back then. In 2021, Chris Hansen made a podcast revealing his last name and calling him the most dangerous predator he ever caught.[11] Dooley also commented on many of Hansen live streams and claimed that Perverted Justice approached of the Suffolk County Police regarding the Bethpage cases (and most likely the Nassau Police as well.) however the refused to prosecute any of them since they had their computer task force[12].
No full uncut Hansen confrontations videos have been released, although an unedited version of Dooley's interview without the facial blur possibly existed online at one point. In Dooley's podcast episode, Chris mentions lost uncut footage, specifically when Ron Knight has to nudge Dooley out the door. Thanks to carefully analyzing web archives, a text sample was found for Steve Reddington and Eddie, with the Reddington sample very similarly being a moment where Hansen is trying to figure out the proper transcript, as Chris mentions with most of the Bethpage predators.
Because Perverted Justice published all chatlogs immediately following the sting, they are all accessible on archived versions of its website. Since this was Dateline's first sting with no police and some predators lived in the NYC area, it was difficult to do background checks since most of their last names were kept secret. Background checks did successfully Identify most of the predators.[13] Musti's previous name was thought to be Quotiza before, but the source was a YouTube Post that was deleted, and the SkipTracer could not find a Musti Quotiza anywhere in the USA or previously, on White Pages[14] Hansen verified in a Podcast he did not know Eddie's last name leaving these predators to be identified unlikely unless someone can ID them.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
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Steven "Steve" Reddington | Found | Partially Found (text) | Yes |
Musti | Found | Lost | No |
Edmund "Eddie" Tapia | Found | Partially Found (text) | Yes |
DarkHero aka Matthew "Matt" Dooley | Found | Lost | Yes |
Craig Haas | Found | Lost | No |
Esteban Condamo | Found | Lost | No |
Mike | Found | Lost | No |
Ryan Hogan | Found | Lost | Yes |
Unaired
Several men caught in the sting either never got a chance to be interviewed by Hansen because another suspect was already being interviewed or was left unaired. However, all of their chat logs are accessible.
A Redditor claimed to know a guy who lawyered up and threatened to sue the show, who was initially thought to be Ron. However, the Redditor confirmed it was a mistake and that it was actually from the second Episode (check Fairfax VA unaired Predators for more details). This leaves the question of whether or not Ron had an interview to be unknown, as only his profile picture is seen in the episode.
Other predators who did not have their interviews shown but whose profile pictures are seen in the episode include Rich, who had a Chris Hansen interview, which is evident from his right to reply.
Alex, John, Anthony, Paul, and Jason are all implied to have had Chris Hansen interviews, as Perverted Justice claims they "don't know [they're] famous yet." Additionally, the men shown in the episode all match their looks, and the men interviewed were only seen in brief highlights of the Bethpage episode.
Greg showed up in the afternoon when nobody was home after missing the initial meet date due to traffic, so it's unlikely Hansen interviewed him.
Brian was the youngest predator ever caught at only 18 years old. The wording on Perverted Justice implies he had a Chris Hansen interview. However, he cannot be seen in the episode, possibly due to his age. Also, when Brian first approached the decoy, they claimed to be 14, which creates a grey area for Romeo and Juliet Laws. However, Frag changed the age to 12 later in the chat, which made Brian's actions more questionable as he continued to pursue the decoy.
Taylor did not have a Chris Hansen interview because he arrived concurrently with another predator, saw them and Hansen inside, and booked it. He can be seen on Del's computer at the beginning of the episode when she describes how disgusting the predators are on video.
It’s unknown if Mike had an interview, as Perverted Justice says he showed up, but they didn't specify if he entered the house. Only his profile picture can be seen.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
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Alex | Found | Lost | No |
John | Found | Lost | No |
Paul | Found | Lost | No |
Anthony | Found | Lost | No |
Greg | Found | N/A (showed up when no one was at the sting house) | No |
Mike | Found | Unknown | No |
Rich | Found | Lost | No |
Jason | Found | Lost | No |
Brian | Found | Lost | No |
Taylor | Found | N/A (saw another predator being interviewed and ran) | No |
Ron | Found | Unknown | No |
Fairfax, Virginia
The Fairfax, Virginia sting was conducted in August 2005 and aired on TV in November 2005. Many credit this episode with helping the show gain so much popularity. In the end, this episode also dives deeper into the dangers of MySpace. A Predator Raw version of the episode was released in April 2007.
Over three days, another 19 men showed up. Among them include David Kaye, a Rabbi; Steven Bennof, a special education teacher; Dr. Jeffery Beck, an emergency room and pediatric doctor; Joe Wunderler, an Army Sergeant who also planned to commit bestiality on a dog; Aladdin Shamoun, who almost passed out a couple of times during the interview; and John Kennelly, who not only entered the house naked but also set up another meeting with an underage boy a day later.
Controversy did arise, as Fairfax County police were reluctant to arrest any of the predators. However, pressure from Perverted Justice meant that the majority featured in the episode were charged and convicted.[15]
One of the exceptions was the semi-infamous Doctor Beck due to his chatlog being much less sexually explicit than the others. Still, he did have his medical license suspended by the Maryland Board of Medicine[16], as well as when he tried to move to California shortly after the sting and got his medical license suspended there also. Through medical board searches, it appears his license is still revoked in Maryland and other states he was qualified in (namely California and New York).[17]
However, the other predators with full segments were successfully criminally charged. John Kennelly was arrested and convicted by the Fairfax County police and is a sex offender to this day. He was later arrested a second time after flashing two teenage girls and chasing them in a park[18]; Aladdin Shamoun was also charged by the local police, but he absconded, presumably back to his native country, Egypt, to avoid an arrest and prosecution. Photos of Alladin have surfaced from a dating website, indicating he still lives in Egpyt.[19]
The army also arrested Joe Wunderler by a military tribunal. His case was referred to the United States District Attorney's office, and he was convicted, served time, and is a sex offender to this day. He received a dishonorable discharge.[20]
Since Rabbi David Kaye and Steven Bennof crossed state/district lines and were highly profiled people, they were also charged and convicted by the FBI[21] [22]and are both sex offenders. Kaye has been in and out of prison for several probation violations, although he has been reduced from a Tier III to a Tier II offender.
As before, all chatlogs were immediately posted on the Perverted Justice website. Some were later removed until a conviction was made, but deleted chat logs (such as Shamoun's) can be accessed through Web Archive links. In addition, Rabbi David Kaye's uncut Hansen confrontation was uploaded to YouTube on October 30th, 2008, and currently remains the only full uncut Fairfax interview that is publicly accessible. However, in 2024, TCaP fan printo316 uploaded the partially found uncut interviews with Steven Bennof and John Kennelly. Reddit user phan1122 would also upload edited versions of Bennof, Shamoun, Wunderler, Kennelly, and Dr. Beck's interviews by combining their raw and uncut footage with their televised segments. However, some footage still needs to be included, and there was a mistake accidentally using Evan Weiss' footage for Aladdin's in the garage. In addition, an unnoticed video from the MSNBC subscription service uploaded by a user named Ben was uploaded to YouTube around 2008 and showed clips of Joe Wunderler and Dr. Beck that were not shown in the broadcast.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
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Aladdin Shamoun | Found | Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Joseph "Joe" Wunderler | Found | Partially Found (edit), Partially Found (actual) | Yes |
Steven "Steve" Bennof | Found | Partially Found (actual), Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Dr. Jeffrey Beck | Found | Partially Found (actual), Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Rabbi David Kaye | Found | Found | Yes |
John Kennelly | Found (both chatlogs) | Partially Found (actual; both encounters), Partially Found (edit; both encounters) | Yes |
Unaired
Several men who came to the sting house either only appeared in brief highlights, were left entirely unaired, or did not stay for an interview. Only two were successfully charged and convicted.
The first to be charged was Mark Baggette, a handsome guy and former football player who, like Kennelly, showed up twice in 24 hours and showed up possibly drunk the first time, being confronted by the homeowner who played it off. He came back the next day and ran from Hansen. He was then arrested, charged, and convicted by the local Fairfax Police. However, his public sex offender registry hasn’t been updated in years, although it was later discovered Baggette was on an unofficial sex offenders registry run by the Virginia state assembly, which adds Tier I sex offenders to it, even those who were let off the list. In Virginia, Tier I sex offenders can apply to be removed from the sex offender's list after 15 years, which is presumably what Baggette did before being added to the unofficial registry.
The second was Dennis Thomas, another unaired predator who was an engineer with the Navy. The military also convicted him, and he is a sex offender to this day. It was previously unknown if Thomas had a Chris Hansen interview since, in the episode, you only see him walking outside the Sting house and going into the kitchen. Thanks to analyzing web archives, a text sample of his interview was found in an old article on the MSNBC page dating back from August of 2005. Also, according to the article, Thomas chatted with other underage kids but denied ever talking sexually to them.
The other two who ran from Hansen were John Phillip Jarrell, who did not talk and ran out, and Arpit Maheshwari. Maheshwari is nicknamed the "Umbrella guy." While he did have a partial interview, it has never been publicly seen beyond when Chris is trying to get him to stay and when he decides to run out. He then ran down the street using the umbrella to cover his face as the cameras followed. Jarrell would later be sent to prison for a DWI and drug dealing charges.
Part of Artie Makepeace and Yonas Getachew's interviews can be seen in the episodes. However, these samples only last a few seconds for each predator. Both their last names were revealed using background checks where they lived. Getachew worked in movies as a camera engineer and returned to Ethiopia at some point after the sting. His IMDb page lists him as himself for the role of predator in the second episode.[23] Background checks on Makepeace would reveal some disturbing details, including a charge for sexual battery in 1993, as well as bouncing checks after the sting. However, the court details on those cases are not available for public view, so it is unknown if a minor was involved in his 1993 charge. In his podcast, Chris claims Artie only stayed briefly during his interview.
It is unknown if "Sean" Kamphon Akkrawong, an IT worker, had a proper interview or if he ran out of the house. Akkrawong can be seen walking outside the sting house and in the kitchen, being pulled over by Hansen, but the rest of the interaction remains lost. Likely, he did at least sit down for a moment as he stepped towards Hansen and waved. His last name was revealed through a background check.
Evan Weiss, a Fulbright scholar and defense contractor, is the most obscure predator in the whole episode; he is only seen for a brief shot showing him going up the stairs in the garage to the door, entering the kitchen holding flowers he was requested to bring. And there is a brief moment where his profile picture can be seen. It was previously unknown if he had an actual Chris Hansen interview, but web archives containing a promotional picture featuring Weiss surrounded by cameras were found. Although his face was blurred out, the photograph matched Weiss's clothing, and there were flowers on the table. Like Artie, Kamphon, and Yonas, his last name was revealed through a background check of where he lived at the time of the sting. TCAP templer Money22 used his Reddit account and messaged the Redditor who claimed to know a guy from the "first" To Catch a Predator. The Redditor said it was a mistake, and it was the second episode before confirming it to be Evan.[24] Evan lawyered up and threatened to sue the show, so producers decided only to show the profile picture and not any footage showing his face.[25]
"Alex" Amir Ferahani, a medical student, had a Chris Hansen interview, but it was never seen in full. Amir is only shown in brief highlights and group montages. However, Hansen showed a clip of Ferahani being told to take a seat in the Riverside, California episode. Ferhani's right to reply on Perverted Justice indicates he had a pretty lengthy interview that never made it to air, as he mentions he spoke to Chris for 30 minutes. Amir seemed very concerned about his future and expressed genuine remorse for his actions. Instead of suing the show like Weiss, Amir took a different approach and decided to get the help he needed. He graduated from medical school and is now a doctor.
Timothy "Andy" Kane is seen in highlights talking to Hansen in a group montage, but how long he stays is unknown, as he is never seen sitting down or finishing the interview.
It's also worth noting that there could be two more unaired predators since the episode says 19 men showed up in 3 days. However, there are only 17 predators we know of. Whether there are two more unaired predators or it was just a mistake is unknown.
All chat logs have been found through web archive links. The only exception is Harold Higley, a married man who can be seen walking in and out of the house. He is mentioned as a person of high esteem as the episodes show Rabbi Kaye and Dr. Beck simultaneously; he was an analyst at the time of the sting. However, whether he stayed for an interview or left immediately is unknown. According to his LinkedIn profile, Higley quit his job right before the sting aired on television.[26] Still, according to a Reddit post, his involvement in the Fairfax sting went undetected among everyone, including his family, friends, and church study group.[27] He was never charged, and his chat log was deleted before it could be archived. However, he would later be arrested and sent to prison in 2012 following an unrelated sting by the Southern Virginia Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force, where he tried once again to meet an underage girl for sex. Someone reported Higley, and police raided Higley's house. According to the report, Higley may have had many victims, although the exact amount is unknown. Everyone in his community was shocked that he was caught on To Catch a Predator after finding out. [28]He served time in prison and is a registered sex offender to this day. Shockingly, his family continues to support him following his release.
Aside from Thomas' text sample, no uncut Hansen interviews concerning these men have been officially released. However, user phan1122 uploaded a thirty-six-second edit of Getachew's time in the house (from when he walks into the house to when he denies the perpetrator in the chatlog being him) to Reddit, as well as a forty-second edit of Artie Makepeace's time in the house.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
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Mark Baggette | Found | Lost | Yes |
John Phillip Jarrell | Found | Lost | No |
Arpit "umbrella guy" Maheshwari | Found | Lost | No |
Harold Higley III | Lost | Lost | No |
Dennis Thomas | Found | Lost (video), Partially Found (text) | No |
Timothy Andrew "Andy" Kane | Found | Lost | No |
Art "Artie" Makepeace | Found | Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Yonas Getachew | Found | Partially Found (edit) | No |
Amir "Alex" Ferahani | Found | Lost | No |
Kamphon "Sean" Akkrawong | Found | Lost | No |
Evan Weiss | Found | Lost Promo Picture | No |
Riverside, California
The Riverside, California sting was conducted in January 2006, and a record 51 men arrived at the house over three days. It aired only a month after the sting in February. This was the first sting to feature direct police involvement with the Riverside Police Department, thus saw the arrests of 50 men. One, David Macek, was released without charge after appearing alongside Sebastian Rodriguez. As the latter initiated the chatlog, he was only charged and later convicted. Two Predator Raw versions of the episode were released in April 2007
Among notable predators featured in the Riverside sting include; Walter Babst[29], a high school teacher who got his teacher license suspended; Daniel Allen, a man who was previously convicted of spousal abuse; Joseph Federico, who was previously convicted of manslaughter; Chris Urban, a man who came to the house high on meth while being on probation for drug possession; and Michael Burks, a federal agent with homeland security.[30]
Keith Williams would be caught in Perverted Justice's Laguna Sting, operated by CNN and the Laguna Beach Police. These chat logs remain lost, as does Scott Smith's first chat with a Perverted Justice decoy.
A few notable men were already registered sex offenders, namely Robert Lyons, the oldest predator caught in this sting who was already on probation for having sex with an underage 14-year-old boy only 11 months before the sting; Jean Pierre "Michael" Wehry, who was sexually abused when he was a kid had many runs with the law including drugs and sexual assault crimes and is still surviving a 50 years sentence for breaking California three strike rule; Gregory "Greg" Karnos who exposed himself and masturbated in front of kids; and Thomas Bodnar who previously was a caretaker who molested three children from the same family.[31]
As the chatlogs were used in a pending police investigation, they would not be published unless a conviction was made. In all, 48 were convicted, with William Lawrence Havey, a marine, having been found not guilty,[32] and Charles Harding, a former Christian Brother and teacher, died in jail as a result of not taking his medication. Most chatlogs are accessible on Perverted Justice's website as of the present day, including Harding's as part of "Other Resolutions," seeing as he had neither been convicted nor acquitted.[33] However, the chatlogs of Kurt Lemke and Peter Christopher Moore remain inaccessible to this day, although the reason is unknown, most likely due to them not being archived properly. Thomas Bodnar's actual chatlog from the Sting is also missing for unclear reasons although portions of said chatlog can be heard in his episode on Hansen's podcast. Another excerpt(s) from his chat log would also be used for a court document appealing his conviction. Still, another encounter he had with PJ remains accessible through an archive version of the website. Jean Pierre Wehry's unique email conversation with the decoy was not published but would be uploaded to YouTube by Joey's TCAP Channel on May 26th, 2017.
While no uncut police interrogations are currently accessible, some uncut Hansen confrontations are viewable as they were included as part of the MSNBC subscription service, being uploaded to YouTube years later. In late 2015/early 2016, almost all To Catch a Predator content was purged from the platform by NBC filing copyright complaints. Although most of the material was re-uploaded years later, some have been taken down again due to YouTube's policy against harassment and bullying, such as Allen's, Moore's, and Babst's. However, they have been recovered through reuploads or a recently discovered Google Drive containing most uncut interviews. Keith Williams' uncut interview was also removed. His uncut interview and a couple of others are missing from the Google Drive, although an archive.org playlist containing all uncut interviews that survived the NBC copyright purge contains them.
Evidence from internet archive searches[34] and dead MSNBC pages[35][36] shows that Erik Pallesen's and Stephen Coates' uncut interviews (and possibly other aired predators' interviews) were once available but are still lost. Pallesen's and Coates' uncut interviews perhaps survived the copyright purge. Still, the two of them have infamously flagged and removed videos featuring them by filing false privacy and copyright complaints, which could've resulted in their interviews being lost.
Other aired predators, such as Chris Urban, Paul Constantineascu, Scott Smith, and Inderjeet Singh, never seem to have been released, as no dead MSNBC page can be found, and no web archive link appears to back this up further as their names were not found.
It is technically unknown whether or not Joseph Federico had a Chris Hansen interaction. Throughout the episode, he is only seen at the booking station. Although Perverted Justice claims he met "cameras and cops," they do not imply that he met Hansen. On his FindLaw page describing his crimes and rejected appeal, it is stated that he showed up at the house and was arrested by waiting officers, but there is no mention of him entering the sting house or meeting Hansen.[37]
While Roberto Forte only had a snippet of his Hansen interview and police interrogation featured in the episode, a fully edited version of his uncut interview with various angles, including his arrest, exists online, suggesting that he was initially supposed to be fully featured before being trimmed down for timing reasons.
On January 6th, 2024, lost media and TCaP YouTuber Astile Doherty Productions partially recovered Inderjeet Singh's uncut interview by editing his televised and Predator Raw segments. However, noticeable cuts and transitions make it clear some footage still needs to be included.
On May 6th, 2024, a user uploaded the edited uncut interviews of Coates and Scott Smith. While it is clear some footage is still missing, most of Coates' has been found, while most of Smith's interview is presumably still lost.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
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Kurt Lemke | Lost | Found | No |
Walter Babst | Found | Found | Yes |
Scott Smith | Lost (first), Found (second) | Partially Found | No |
Jerry Griffitt | Found | Found | Yes |
Peter Christopher "Chris" Moore | Lost | Found | No |
Stephen Coates | Found | Partially Lost | Yes |
Daniel Pulido | Found | Found | Yes |
Keith Williams | Found (first two), Lost (second two) | Found | Yes |
Erik Pallesen | Found | Lost | Yes |
Michael Burks | Found | N/A (was waiting in his car while Erik Pallesen was inside the sting house and was being confronted inside by Hansen, and saw Pallesen run out and was arrested) | Yes |
Sebastian Rodriguez | Found | Found | Yes |
Christopher "Chris" Urban | Found | Lost | Yes |
Paul Constantinescu | Found | Lost | Yes |
Inderjeet "Andy" Singh | Found | Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Greg Diederich | Found | N/A (Diederich saw Del, realized something was wrong and bolted before being arrested) | No |
Maurice Ruiz | Found | N/A (Ruiz saw Del, realized something was wrong, and bolted before being arrested) | No |
Charles "Chuck" Harding | Found | Found | Yes |
Roberto Forte | Found | Found, Found (both angles) | Yes |
Daniel "Dan" Allen | Found | Found | Yes |
Joseph Federico | Found | Unknown | No |
Robert Lyons | Found | Found | Yes |
Jean Pierre "Michael" Wehry | Found | Found | Yes |
Gregory "Greg" Karnos | Found | Found | Yes |
Thomas Bodnar | Found (first) Partially Found (second; check podcast and link) | Found | Yes |
Unaired
In addition to the predators featured in the main televised broadcast, some uncut interviews of unfeatured men were published on MSNBC, including Jerry Wayne-Martin Kosis, a park attendant, Corey Ahia, and Richer Breault.
It is known thanks to analysing data from currently inaccessible Web Archive pages of MSNBC and fans point out that additional uncut interviews featuring other unaired predators were indeed available but have not resurfaced since,[34] such as Danny Swinney and Abraham Koujababian. According to fans who saw Koujababian's interview on MSNBC and Chris Hansen himself, Koujababian had a pretty decent talk with Chris, ending in Koujababian crying before leaving the house. Hansen confirmed he could not access Koujababian's uncut footage, seemingly confirming that any lost footage being found again is unlikely unless a fan who archived them has them in personal collections. Koujababian became semi-infamous for bringing Viagra to the house, although he did not disclose he had Viagra while being interviewed by Hansen. This and the crying are the only details known about his uncut confrontation. Also, according to fans who saw Danny Swinney's uncut interview, he had a short partial but left the interview midway like Greg Karnos. Swinney was caught talking to another Perverted Justice decoy in a Nevada chatroom before the sting. Both chatlogs on the PJ website are attached for Danny Swinney's conviction.
Like with the aired predators, some unaired interviews, such as the ones with Ahia, Eddie Hyung Paek, Nick Cocos, and Andre Jackson, were deleted by YouTube due to changes in their policy. However, a Google Drive file was discovered, which had most of the uncut interviews. Additionally, like Roberto Forte, Google Drive provided another version of Kosis' interview, which was recorded from a different angle without the arrest footage. It is likely that Kosis was initially supposed to be fully featured in the story but wound up being cut for time reasons.
A decent number of unaired predators were waiting in their cars or walking towards the house before being arrested immediately, like Michael Burks, so they never had a Chris Hansen interview. Three of them ran just like Thomas Bodnar, those men being Eduardo Guillen, Jorge Correa (who was subsequently deported from the United States), and John Mahon, although the uncut MSNBC footage of them running from the sting house has been lost to this day.[38][39] [40] Miguel Sosa also showed up a week late for the sting, so no interview for him exists either.
As for chatlogs, all but Paek, William Havey, and Daryl Medley are accounted for; Paek absconded before his trial, Havey was acquitted, and Medley for unknown reasons. Hansen reads a fair amount of Paek's chat log throughout his uncut interview, making at least some of its contents known. Koujababian also spoke to three other decoys, while Swinney was previously caught chatting with another in a Las Vegas sting, with these chats included in their files.
Following the sting, one unaired predator who was not interviewed by Hansen, a lawyer named Eric Gamonal, Perverted Justice, claimed he did not have an interview, as they mention, "He did not meet Chris Hansen." He had resigned from his lawyer's license while being charged by the American Bar Association. Searches through the Bar of California show his license is still pending charges since he never finished the case and withdrew it.[41]
Phillip Jaruhungsin is one of the more mysterious predators caught in this sting. Perverted Justice implied he had an unaired interview, as they mentioned that "he met Dateline's cameras and the police of the Riverside County police department." This is very similar wording to Richer Breault, who had an interview. However, unlike most unaired predators caught in this sting, his uncut interview appears to have never been released, as no dead MSNBC page can be found. Additionally, he is only seen for a brief mugshot throughout the episode.
Like Keith Williams, Hoi "Eddie" Chan would be caught in the Laguna Sting in California and hosted by Perverted Justice, CNN, and the Laguna Police Department. Hoi would later get a million-dollar bail amount from the Riverside Police. Hoi said in his chats he had marijuana, and in his second chatlog, he explained how he was arrested at the front door of the sting house instead of talking or having an interview. He would receive three years in prison. He was later deported back to his native country, China, more specifically Hong Kong, post to the sting.
Whether or not Medley, Jonathan Daniel Vasquez, and Alvin Hall Jr. had interviews with Hansen is still being determined. According to Perverted Justice, Hall was supposed to be featured in the Riverside episode. However, they may have been referring to the brief appearance of his mugshot during the first half's conclusion, as, like Jaruhungsin, he is not seen either approaching the house, being interviewed, or even at the booking station. Meledy can be seen in a brief shot being handcuffed, but since his chatlog was never published, with no details regarding his encounter with the sting, it is unknown to this day if he had an interview.
Like Miguel Sosa, four men who communicated with decoys at the sting time but did not show up to the sting house would later be convicted: Gregory Allen Meeks, Christopher Hyatt, Robert Nebens, and Vishal Agarwal.
Meeks was a fifty-one-year-old man who, after his computer was seized, was found to have real chats with children, child pornography, proof of an affair he was having, and evidence he was fond of bestiality. Despite the overwhelming disgusting evidence found, Meeks was given a very light sentence; he served only one hundred and eighty days in prison and thirty-six months of probation, although he was required to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. He still appears on the Megan's Law California registry, although a blog post erroneously reported him as no longer required to register.
Hyatt (who didn't agree to meet the decoy until July 2006) planned on meeting it at a library so they could run away together. Because of this, he was also charged with kidnapping and sentenced to four years in prison and is a lifetime registered sex offender. He was released in 2008 and currently lives in San Francisco. Hilariously, he acknowledged Perverted Justice in the chat and even sent the decoy a link to their website.
Robert Nebens was one of the more dangerous unfeatured men; he was previously arrested in 1997 for interstate travel to have sex with a minor. After being released in 2004, he was right back to chatting with underage children online. He sent pornography to the Riverside decoy and was arrested in Oak Park as opposed to Riverside. After being arrested, he was extradited from California to Miami, Florida, to face a probation violation. When he was returned to California, he was convicted of his federal crimes. After being released in 2008, he reoffended in 2011. He now lives in Los Angeles.
Agarwal was an Indian immigrant with a wife and a master's degree. He solicited and stood up three different decoys involved in the Riverside sting before finally being arrested at his home. He only served six months (to be served on weekends), three years probation, and was ordered to register as a sex offender. Although his sentence was light, considering the raunchy chat and the fact he sent pornography to the decoy, he was subsequently deported from the United States.
While all chat logs relating to the men are available, no police interrogations concerning these four men have surfaced as of yet.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
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Corey Ahia | Found | Found | Yes |
Rafiullah "Rafi"Ahmadi | Found | Found | Yes |
Richer Breault | Found | Found | Yes |
Nicolas Cocos | Found | Found | Yes |
Andre Jackson | Found | Found | Yes |
Jerry Wayne Martin-Kosis | Found | FoundFound (both angles) | Yes |
Hyung "Eddie" Paek | Partially Found (see uncut interview) | Found | No |
Michael Seibert (1st) | Found | Found | Yes |
Gilbert Sutherland | Found | Found | Yes |
John Christopher "Chris" Weaver | Found | Found | No |
Victor Wells | Found | Found | Yes |
Danny Swinney | Found (both) | Lost | No |
Daryl Medley | Lost | Unknown | No |
Hoi Dick "Eddie" Chan | Found(both) | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house) | No |
Eduardo Gullien | Found | N/A (however, Gullien had a brief interaction with the decoy, Del, before running away - this interaction is also lost) | No |
Abraham Koujababian | Found (all four) | Lost | Yes |
Eric Gamonal | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house) | No |
Jonathan Daniel Vasquez | Found | Unknown | No |
Jorge Colorado/Correa | Found (both) | Lost | No |
Singh Karampal Nakai | Found | N/A (was waiting in his car while Erik Pallesen was inside the sting house and was being confronted inside by Hansen, and saw Pallesen run out and was arrested. ) | No |
Miguel Sosa | Found | N/A (showed up a week late) | No |
Mitchell Rhodes Heylek | Found | N/A (almost had an interview but was arrested before entering the sting house since Eddie Paek stalled his interview) | No |
Phillip Jaruhungsin | Found | Lost | No |
Spencer Cho | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house) | No |
William Havey | Lost | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house) | No |
Alvin Hall Jr. | Found | Unknown | No |
John Mahon | Found | Lost | No |
Gregory Allen Meeks | Found | N/A (did not come to the sting sting house) | No |
Christopher Hyatt | Found | N/A (did not come to the sting sting house) | No |
Robert Nebens | Found | N/A (did not come to the sting sting house) | No |
Vishal Agarwal | Found (all three) | N/A (did not come to the sting sting house) | No |
Greenville, Ohio
The Greenville, Ohio sting was conducted in March 2006, and with the Greenville Police Department, seventeen men were arrested over three days. The episode aired a month later, in late Apri and early May, as a two-part episode. The goal of this sting was to see if predators would even go to rural areas as well[42] Two Predator Raw episodes would later be released in 2010.
Among notable predators include James Rutherford, a teacher[43]; and Kevin Westerbeck, who not only was set to go to prison a few days after the sting, as he had previously been convicted not only for appearing at an earlier, unrelated sting but he would also later be convicted for sexually abusing his underage niece.[44]
All men who showed up were convicted; thus, their chatlogs are accessible on the Perverted Justice website. Additionally, some uncut interviews and police interrogations would be uploaded to MSNBC and eventually be re-uploaded to YouTube. Others were previously available on MSNBC based on Web Archive data (like Josh Tuttle's, Roger Brummitt's, Alonzo Wade's, and Timothy Issac's) but still need to be included.[45][46][47]
Some uncut interviews (such as those of Nathan Downhour and Ronnell's Stephens-Tun) available on YouTube have since been removed due to changes in YouTube's policy. However, like with the Riverside predators, they have recently been found again thanks to a Google Drive containing uncut footage from the RIverside and Greenville stings. Although Jason Schoeppner's uncut interview was also deleted for violating YouTube's policy, another reupload on the Internet Archive helped save the interview from being lost. A snippet from John Frantz's uncut interview is available, although the confrontation has yet to surface. Youtuber Candidfellow has the rest of Franz's interview but has yet to release it. Timothy Isaac's original segment and Predator Raw entry have been edited to create a rough, uncut interview. However, some unavoidable fast cuts make it clear some footage still needs to be included. Rob Kline's uncut Hansen confrontation was apparently on YouTube for a few years after the NBC copyright purge, although it was abruptly removed and has not been seen since.
It is unknown whether or not Glenn Mitchell (the only man not to come to the sting house) spoke to the police since not even a video or audio clip suggests that he did. Mitchell, similar to Kevin Westerbeck, had evidence against him that meant he had abused real children and contacted another Perverted Justice decoy before the sting. He has been recognized as a Child Victim Predator on the Ohio Sex Offender Registry.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Uncut Police Interrogation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|---|
Alonzo Hampton Wade | Found | Lost | Lost | Yes |
Nathan Downhour | Found | Found | Found | Yes |
Jason Schoeppner | Found | Found | Lost | Yes |
Timothy "Tim" Isaac | Found | Partially Found (edit) | Lost | Yes |
Davut Ozkan | Found | Found | Found | Yes |
Joshua Lee "Josh" Tuttle | Found | Lost | Lost | Yes |
John Frantz | Found | Partially Found (actual) | Lost | Yes |
Ronnelle Stephens-Tun | Found | Found | Lost | Yes |
James Rutherford | Found | Found | Found | Yes |
Jay Reffner | Found | Lost | Found | Yes |
Roger Brummitt | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Kenneth Brinkman | Found | Found | Found | Yes |
Jeffery "Jeff" Stacy | Found | Found | Found | Yes |
Rob Kline | Found | Lost | Found | Yes |
Glenn Mitchell | Found | N/A (did not come to the sting house) | Unknown | No |
Kevin Westerbeck | Found | Found | Found | Yes |
Unaired
-Nineteen-year-old Nicholas Bailey also showed up and ended up being convicted. His chatlog and uncut Hansen interview are currently accessible, but his uncut police interrogation (if he has one) has never been publicly seen.
Twenty-seven-year-old Mahadevaswamy Chandrashekaraiah (known as "some guy with a really long name that showed in Ohio"), a TA for the University of Kentucky, is one of the most elusive and mysterious predators from the show. Appearing only in snippets during the court proceedings, his chat log is available, but his uncut interview that was once available on the MSNBC subscription service is lost to this day. An old MSNBC article, "Predator: Chindra" a misspelling of his nickname, Deeva Chandra) was posted in August 2006.[48] Internet Archives confirm the inaccessible file's name is Chandra.[49] Perverted Justice also confirmed that he did at least meet Chris Hansen and claimed he knew he was in trouble once he saw Chris. However, no other details about his interaction are known.
Deeva's police interrogation is inaccessible, although he can be heard being interrogated in the background of Kenneth Brinkman's interrogation. Since Dateline's cameras were recording Brinkman, it's unknown if any full video of Deeva's police interview exists. He was later deported back to his native country (presumably India) after serving his prison sentence.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Uncut Police Interrogation | Podcast |
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Nicholas “Nick” Bailey | Found | Found | Unknown | Yes |
Mahadevaswamy “Deeva Chandra” Chandrashekriah | Found | Lost | Partially Found (Audio), Lost (Video) | No |
Fort Myers, Florida
The Fort Myers, Florida, sting was conducted in April 2006 with the assistance of the Fort Myers Police. Over three days, 24 men between the ages of 21 to 61 were arrested.[50] The episode was released in two parts in May of 2006. Two Predator Raw episodes would be released as well in 2010
Among notable predators include Clifford Wallach, who brought his five-year-old son with him to the sting house;[51] Marvin Lakhan, a youth consoler and medical student who wanted to be a pediatrician. who entered the house naked and wanted a girl to commit bestiality on a cat[52]; and Fredi Fernandez, who was a security guard at the Miami International Airport[53]
Three of the men arrested would be acquitted; these included Michael Wilusz and Brian Gosselin, whose attorneys demanded Perverted Justice's hard drives for a court-ordered inspection, with the organization refusing to comply, claiming the hard drives had been destroyed. Thus, Wilusz and Gosselin were allowed to walk free. Meanwhile, Thomas Moffitt was acquitted because his attorney convinced the jury that since Moffitt did not enter the house and was "trying to leave," he had not committed a crime. David Schumacher also had his charges dropped. The FBI took over his case since he had another case and charges pending against him for grand theft auto. He was given a plea deal by pleading guilty to the original charges, meaning he did not have to be sentenced for any sex crimes. However, after posting his chatlog anyway, members of Perverted Justice insisted that Schumacher was charged and convicted of assault for connection with the chat, but this is simply untrue.[54]
The remaining predators were convicted, with their chatlogs published on the website. The chatlogs of Wilusz and Gosselin would later be found and reuploaded as part of a Google Drive file, but Moffitt's remains missing; however, part of it can be heard in Chris Hansen's Predator's podcast. The Google Drive has since been taken down, but readings of the chats on YouTube can still be found.
Some uncut interview footage resurfaced on January 8th, 2024, belonging to Wilusz and Wallach. TCaP YouTuber printo316 uploaded the partial uncut interview of Wilusz. However, with Wallach, it seemed that more (or no) footage from his confrontation with Hansen needed to be included, making this incredibly brief interaction effectively found. David Schumacher partly recovered his uncut Hansen interview by editing his aired and Predator Raw segments. As with the others, some unavoidable fast cuts make it apparent some footage still needs to be included.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|
Michael Wilusz | Found | Partially Found (actual) | Yes |
David Schumacher | Found | Partially Found (edit), Partially Found (actual) | Yes |
Dennis Ramsey | Found | Lost | Yes |
Thomas Moffitt | Partially found (check podcast) | N/A (however, there is an encounter Moffit had with the decoy, Emily, waiting outside trying to get her in his car - this uncut interaction is lost as well) | Yes |
Ellahzar Henson | Found | N/A (however, Henson entered the sting house and saw one of the cameramen hiding upstairs while Emily was trying to talk to him, so he booked it outside - this uncut footage is lost as well) | Yes |
Fredi Fernandez | Found | Lost | No |
Jose "Pepe" Falcon | Found | Lost | Yes |
Thomas Coffen | Found | Lost | Yes |
Eric Thornton | Found | Lost | Yes |
Donald Morrison | Found | Lost | Yes |
Clifford Wallach | Found | Found | Yes |
Raul Brenes | Found | Lost | No |
Brian Gosselin | Found | Lost | Yes |
Kenneth Forton | Found | Lost | Yes |
Elias Rudy Bailon | Found | Lost | Yes |
Calvin Lee Greer | Found | Lost | Yes |
Ryan McIntosh | Found | Lost | Yes |
Dallas Lee | Found | Lost | No |
Thomas Campbell | Found | Lost | Yes |
Marvin Lakhan | Found | Lost | Yes |
Unaired
Two unaired predators, Sunday School teacher Brian Emmens[55] and teen mental health counselor Peter Ernandez[56], are considered huge missed opportunities by the TCaP fandom due to their jobs. Ernandez's interview is shown quite a bit throughout the episode in highlights, and as mentioned, his job made it especially disturbing working with teens who were not emotionally stable. However, Emmen’s interview is not shown very much. He can only see entering the house, and only one excerpt can be heard, "I don't want my face on television." Perverted Justice claims he also said, "When am I going to be on Television?" Emmens would later plead guilty a second time for possession of child pornography in a separate case in 2009.
Daniel Trust was also unaired, with major lines such as "I'm not gonna be on TV!" and "I'd like to walk out." Miguel Luiz Loyoza left the house and only had a concise partial interview as he left midway.
As with the aired and other unaired predators, their chatlogs are all available, but no uncut confrontations or police interrogations have ever been released.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|
Peter Ernandez | Found | Lost | Yes |
Brian Emmons | Found | Lost | No |
Daniel Trust | Found | Lost | No |
Miguel Luiz Lozoya | Found | Lost | No |
Where Are They Now?
It should be noted that another episode called "Where Are They Now" was released in between the Fort Meyers and Fortson stings. While outdated, it shows footage clips not seen in another episode, such as John Kennelly being arrested outside his apartment and Erik Pallesen and Roberto Forte pleading guilty in court. It also contains shots of unaired predators, such as Nick Bailey's arrest footage, from a different angle to Mark Baggette's second encounter with Hansen.
Fortson, Georgia
The Fortson, Georgia sting was conducted in July 2006, with the help of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, and saw 20 men be arrested over several days.[57] The episode aired in September of 2006 as two episodes. This would also have the last Predator Raw version available. An extended version of the episode was available according to the Perverted website with extended interviews at one point; however, it has not resurfaced.
Among them included Cody Green, who later faced additional charges for indecently exposing himself to an eight-year-old girl at a swimming pool;[58] Rolando Restocruz, an Iraqi war veteran;[59] Marvin Harrison Smith, a Baptist minister;[60] as well as Joseph Myrick, who came to the house high on cocaine.[61]
Except for Abhilash Bhaskaran, who absconded before his trial,[62] All the predators were convicted, and thus their chatlogs were published on Perverted Justice's website.
Although no full police interrogations have ever resurfaced online, and almost all uncut confrontations are lost, Cody Green's uncut confrontation has been partially recovered, having been unnoticed on YouTube for years since its original upload on 15 December 2015 by a user called X0AliciaX0. printo316 would partially recover David Hilbish's and Dennis Coulson's uncut interviews in January 2024. Later that month, Astile Doherty Productions uploaded an edited version of Christopher Cannon's televised segment with his predator raw entry. Since virtually no footage was missing from his interaction with the decoy Emily and Hansen, his uncut confrontation has effectively been found.
On February 10, 2024, Astile Doherty Productions would later edit the interviews of Denis Coulson and Matthew Cogburn using their televised segments and their predator raw entry (alongside the partially found footage that printo316 uploaded for Coulson's interview) on YouTube as well. However, some jump cuts make it apparent that some footage still needs to be included (although most of Cogburn's has been found). The videos were later removed but were uploaded to archive.org shortly afterwards. An edit of Rolando Restocruz's was uploaded shortly afterwards as well.
On March 9, 2024, Reddit user phan1122 uploaded a mostly found edited version of Cody Green's uncut confrontation, utilizing his televised segment, his Predator Raw entry, and his partially found uncut footage from the MSNBC subscription service.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | podcast |
---|---|---|---|
Denis Coulson | Found | Partially Found (actual), Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Christopher "Chris" Xavier Cannon | Found | Found | Yes |
John Adam Daniels | Found | Lost | Yes |
Matthew Cogburn | Found | Partially Lost (edit) | Yes |
George Cleary | Found | N/A (drove by the sting house before being pulled over and arrested) | No |
Peter Sciacca | Found | N/A (however, there is an interaction between Sciacca and the decoy, Del - this uncut confrontation is also lost) | Yes |
James "Jim" Klein | Found | Lost | Yes |
Cody Green | Found | Partially Found (actual), Partially Lost (edit) | Yes |
Marvin Harrison Smith II | Found | N/A (however, Harrison followed the decoy into the sting house and saw Dateline's cameras in the next room before bolting - this uncut confrontation is also lost) | Yes |
David Hilbish | Found | Partially Found | No |
Reymundo Anguiano | Found | Lost | Yes |
Todd West | Found | Lost | Yes |
William "Bill" Rowell | Found | Lost | Yes |
Gerald White | Found | Lost | Yes |
Brian Lindsey | Found | Lost | Yes |
Marshall Girtman | Found | N/A (left the sting house before Chris came out - the uncut footage of him entering the sting house and leaving is lost as well) | Yes |
Rolando Restocruz | Found | Partially Found | Yes |
Joseph Myrick | Found | Lost | Yes |
Abhilash Bhaskaran | Lost | Lost | No |
Unaired
Only one predator, Jacob Cason, who has become semi-infamous for his strong accent, had his interaction with Chris Hansen completely unaired. It is unknown if he was thoroughly interviewed or run and if he interacted with Hansen. He can be seen entering the sting house and making a case at his bond hearing, arguing that the decoy was a 22-year-old woman. This excerpt can also be seen on the web version of the episode published on Dateline NBC.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|
Jacob Cason | Found | Lost | No |
Petaluma, California
The Petaluma, California, sting was conducted in August 2006, and 31 men were arrested over three days with the help of the Petaluma Police Department. Among them include Piedmont physician and cancer research specialist Dr. Maurice Wolin and Joseph Roisman, a Navy sailor who would ultimately be acquitted because the Judge accused Dateline NBC and Perverted Justice of entrapment.[63] [64] Thus, Roisman's chatlog was never published, though many others would.
Roisman would later sexually assault a woman years later and would receive prison time. He was later sent to prison. Before serving his sentence, he would be arrested again for grand theft auto. He would later be sent to jail and got a tattoo of the word trouble.
Chandra Nunna was another predator to be acquitted of all the charges. Although, unlike Roisman, his case details are very private. But it was for Nunna’s chatlogs not being published anywhere on PJ, the California sex offender list, and living in the USA post the sting. The chatlogs of Pulkit Mathur and Kanishk Lakhanpal also went unpublished since Lakhanpal was not charged due to a lack of sexual intent in his chatlog, as noted in the episode.[65], and Mathur absconded, most likely back to his native country.
Perverted Justice's website points out that, like the Georgia sting, an extended version of the episode was available but has not resurfaced. No uncut interview footage was believed to exist online. However, in January 2024, TCAP YouTuber printo316 recovered Maurice Wolin's incredibly brief, uncut confrontation with the decoy, Dani, and Hansen. Unlike the others he uploaded, virtually no footage was missing from the video, making it effectively found. Additionally, internet archives indicate that more uncut footage (or at least snippets) were once publicly available. Pulkit's and Kanishk's double interview and Yancy Wallace's and Joseph Roisman's interviews were available. However, these confrontations have yet to be recovered.[66]
Previously, no uncut police interrogations were available. However, prominent TCAP enthusiast, HEY PEPE!!! Received contact from a Petaluma source who revealed they had copies of some interrogations. The source explained that most have since become lost to time. Nevertheless, on 2nd May 2023, Wolin's entire interrogation was uploaded to YouTube, followed by Mathur's on 13th May. Lakhanpal's interrogation was partially uploaded on 19th May, with the rest also becoming inaccessible over time. Finally, HEY PEPE!!! Uploaded Vaikunth Soundarajan's interrogation on 26th May. He later confirmed on the Temple of TCAP forum that this was the last Petaluma interrogation he could obtain.[67]
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Police Interrogation | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|---|
Norberto Avalos | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Jonathan Stemen | Found | Lost | N/A (Stemen was in the Military and therefore had licenses/permits for guns, so the cops waited for him to come and arrested him right way) | Yes |
Mike Vestal | Found | Lost | Lost | Yes |
Manuel Uson | Found | Lost | Lost | Yes |
Vaikunth Soundarajan | Found | Found | Lost | No |
Fernando Bernal | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Juan Henry Guzman | Found | Lost | Lost | Yes |
Shaka Khan | Found | Lost | N/A (Khan drove by the sting house, waited while Guzman was being interviewed, got nervous, and drove off before being pulled over and arrested) | Yes |
Steven Cartlidge | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Jeffrey Couture | Found | Lost | Lost | Yes |
Jaswinder Cheema | Found | Lost | Lost | Yes |
Joseph Roisman | Lost | Lost | Lost | Yes |
Yancy Wallace | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Anurag Tawari | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Chandrashekhar “Chandra” Nunna | Lost | Lost | Lost | No |
Pulkit Mathur | Lost | Found | Lost | Yes |
Kanishk Lakhanpal | Lost | Partially Found | Lost | Yes |
Juan Carlos Gutierrrez | Found | Lost | Lost | Yes |
Dr. Maurice Wolin | Found | Found | Found | Yes |
Unaired
Like the prior stings, some men's segments were either left entirely on the cutting room floor or only shown in very brief highlights.
One unaired predator, Gopichand Pai (an engineer for Apple who was seen at the beginning of the episode talking to the decoy and being told to take a seat by Hansen), was convicted but absconded to his native country, India, before sentencing. Like most absconded predators, his complete chat log was never published. However, a sample was posted on his "Most Wanted" page on Perverted Justice's website. Besides the very brief beginning of his interview shown in the episode, his full interview has never been publicly seen. Like with Cason, his conversation is also available on the web version of the episode.
One other notable unaired predator was a man named Ernesto Lianayao, who used to be known as the predator who died without a trace since no footage of him could be found in the episode, and he passed away before anyone managed to screenshot his sex offender profile. However, he was later identified when none of the other predators matched a man in a promotional photo being interviewed by Hansen and was matched with a funeral picture of a man named Ernesto Linayao, who died in 2018 on ancestry.com. His Hansen interviewed another than the one promo picture has never been publicly seen.
Another notable unaired predator, David Fraser, actually drove by the sting house, saw police outside, and was not immediately arrested because in California, at the time of the sting, just using the computer was a misdemeanor until you showed up, in which case it would become a felony. Days after the sting, he messaged the decoy and was arrested because he admitted he saw cops and had every intent to go inside, which made his charge a felony. He was subsequently arrested.
A brief shot of Aminder Singh's interview can be seen as well. Mohammad Aksoum and Jamie Mendieta both had short partial interviews, as seen in the brief highlight at the beginning of the episode.
According to Perverted Justice, Eugeno Peres and Biang Liang both had Chris Hansen interviews, and the website claims they met Chris. However, they cannot be seen being interviewed. Only a brief shot of Peres being handcuffed and Liang's profile picture is shown.
James Craig Traylor, like Peres, was only seen handcuffed in the episode. However, according to Traylor himself, he did enter the house, indicating he did have some interaction with Chris Hansen. However, whether or not it was an interview is unknown.
It is unknown if Thinh Toung Ly, Andrew Jordan, or Wait Kit Cheuk had interviews or any Hansen interaction or if they were arrested immediately. However, they may have agreed to speak to the police.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Police Interrogation | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|---|
Gopichand Pai | Partially Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Eugenio Peres | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
James Craig Traylor | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Aminder Singh | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Mohammad Aksoum | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Jamie Mendieta | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Ernesto "John" Linayao | Found | Lost | Lost Promo Photo | No |
Thinh Tuong Ly | Found | Lost | Unknown | No |
Andrew Jordan | Found | Lost | Unknown | No |
David Fraser | Found | Lost | N/A (Fraser drove by the sting house, saw the police and drove off) | No |
Bing Liang | Found | Lost | Lost | No |
Wai Kit Cheuk | Found | Lost | Unknown | No |
In Our Own Words
There was another episode called In Our Own Words, released between Petaluma and Long Beach, which contains bonus footage of Bethpage Predators Steven Reddington, Matt Dooley, and Eddie, including the scenes where Eddie is "camera shy" and Chris is trying to find the proper chat log for Dooley. It also features commentary from Chris Hansen, Del Harvey, and many Police chiefs, such as the DA of Riverside. Other highlights include Dan Allen at court, unaired predator Hoi Chan, including a shot of him at court not shown anywhere else, both getting the longest sentence, and James Rutherford pleading guilty in court.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypxkLwimCV8&t=2103s
Long Beach, California
The Long Beach, California, sting was conducted in September 2006, and 38 men were arrested with the help of the Long Beach Police Department. Among notable predators include Michael Warrecker, who had a rape fetish;[68] Michael Seibert, who had previously been caught in the Riverside sting; [69]and Justin Smith, who worked for the kid's TV network Nickelodeon.[70] All the men highlighted in the episode were ultimately convicted, with their chatlogs published on the Perverted Justice website. However, according to Perverted Justice and Hansen, Farzad Kalantari was chatting with an astonishing eight other decoys simultaneously, even getting confused about who he was talking to during the available chat log. These other eight chat logs are inaccessible.
Additionally, a few uncut videos containing the interviews of Warrecker, Paul Clemente, Seibert, Corye Blagg, Kalantari, and Corey Edgar have also been uploaded to YouTube from the defunct MSNBC subscription service. However, with notable jumpcuts, sloppy editing, and most of the broadcasted footage not being included in the uncut videos, it is clear that the entirety of these uncut Hansen confrontations have not been found as of yet, with some of them being as short as under a minute. No police interrogations have ever been made public for this sting beyond incredibly brief highlights shown in the episodes.
In 2024, an unnoticed Paul Clemente clip from the MSNBC subscription service was discovered. Temple of TCaP user money22 acknowledged its existence. printo316 would upload it to archive.org to preserve it further. The clip (as well as others) was uploaded to YouTube by fredmertz75 back in January 2007, roughly around the time the MSNBC service began uploading uncut predator content.
On 22nd June, 2024, Michael Warrecker, the first man to show up and be profiled in the sting, died of unknown causes. On 30th June, his edited uncut interview was posted on archive.org, combining his televised segment with his partial uncut interview from the MSNBC subscription service. Evidently, some footage is still missing. Seibert's and Edgar's were uploaded later on.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|
Michael
"Mike" Warrecker |
Found | PartiallyFound (actual), Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Matthew Bland | Found | N/A (however, there is an interaction Bland had with the decoy, Dani, before leaving - this uncut interaction is also lost) | No |
Matthew Nash | Found | Lost | Yes |
Selvin Galeano | Found | Lost | No |
Paul Clemente | Found | PartiallyFound | Yes |
Robert Salinas | Found | Lost | Yes |
James Cisneros | Found | Lost | Yes |
Robert Culbertson | Found | Lost | Yes |
Justin Smith | Found | Lost | Yes |
Qays Mahjoob | Found | Lost | Yes |
Michael Seibert (2nd) | Found | Partially Found (actual), Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Corye Blagg | Found | Partially Found | No |
Farzad Kalantari | Found (main one), Lost (other eight) | Partially Found | No |
Satinder Thind | Found | Lost | Yes |
Josiah Walker | Found | Lost | Yes |
Joshua Larios | Found | Lost | No |
Maroof Farooq | Found | N/A (however, Farooq and another man sent in a fifteen-year-old to "scout" the area, where Hansen confronted him - this uncut confrontation is also lost) | No |
Loren Hayden | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house) | Yes |
Alvin King | Found | N/A (did not come to the sting house) | No |
Frank Sierras | Found | Lost | Yes |
Robert "Brandon" Williams | Found | N/A (however, Williams had a brief interaction with the decoy, Dani, before going back to his truck - this uncut interaction is also lost) | No |
Corey Edgar | Found | PartiallyFound (actual), Partially Found (edit) | Yes |
Gabor Nagy | Found | N/A (arrested at a nearby park) | No |
Arturo Chirino | Found | N/A (however, Chirino had a brief interaction with the decoy, Dani, before taking off - this uncut interaction is also lost) | No |
Unaired
Because of the large influx of men caught in the sting, many men were either not included in the broadcast after being interviewed by Chris Hansen, or they arrived at the same time as other men and effectively never got the chance to be interviewed.
Luciano Diamas who was seen running from Hansen, was never interviewed and was not profiled in the episode.
Three men - Mario Martinez, Uribe Lazo, and Kevin Lasz - were either acquitted of their crimes or not formally charged, so their chat logs are also missing. Lasz's involvement in the sting would later be verified when he was arrested a second time for attempting to assault an older woman almost a decade later sexually, and the police sketch matched the body build of the man blurred out in the episode. Lazo and Lasz met Chris Hansen, although their confrontations are still lost.
According to Perverted Justice, Conrad “James” Valdez and James Carlton did meet Chris Hansen. However, their interactions with him have been lost to this day. Whether Martinez, Brandon Franklin, David Frandsen, Jimmy Magtira, Ernesto Avila, and Tanisorn Lam were interviewed or at the very least met Hansen is unconfirmed.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
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Luciano Dimas | Found | Lost | No |
Brandon Franklin | Found | Unknown | No |
Anoosh Pajand | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house) | No |
Ramin Sarajari | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house) | No |
Ernesto Avila | Found | Lost | No |
David Frandsen | Found | Unknown | No |
James Carlton | Found | Lost | No |
Conrad "James" Valdez | Found | Lost | No |
Chris Reyes | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house) | No |
Jimmy Magtira | Found | Unknown | No |
Tanisorn "Moe" Lam | Found | Unknown | No |
Mario Martinez | Lost | Unknown | No |
Uribe Lazo | Lost | Lost | No |
Kevin Lasz | Lost | Lost | No |
Murphy, Texas
The Murphy, Texas, sting was conducted in November 2006, and 25 men were caught in the sting by the Murphy Police. The Murphy sting was the most infamous and controversial in the show's history. Not only were many Murphy residents unhappy with Dateline NBC appearing in their town, to the point where some conducted a protest outside the sting house, but it also saw the suicide of Louis Conradt, an assistant district attorney, following a botched arrest attempt at his home.[71] Following the Conradt suicide, the Texas district attorney decided not to press charges for the predators caught in the sting.[72] Thus, none of the featured predators in this sting were prosecuted, so Perverted Justice did not post most of the chatlogs.
Other notable predators in this sting include Stanley Kendall, a teacher; William Dow, a former police officer; and Edward Hollingsworth V, who had one of the most bizarre usernames and an awful excuse.
Another notable predator, Randall Wolford, an oil drilling consultant, two years later in March of 2008, got caught by an undercover cop for the Samson Park Police Department. The cop was posing as what Randall believed was a thirteen-year-old girl. Wolford made a date, and they agreed to meet. Wolford was then arrested, and when they figured out he was arrested in the TCAP sting, his case was transferred to the U.S. attorney's office, and Wolford was given 24 years in federal prison.[73]
Also, following the sting, Stanley Kendall's teaching license was suspended in Texas.[74] However, years later, he moved back to his home state, Indiana, and disturbingly worked as a school substitute teacher.[75] Eventually, the schools were notified of Kendall's crimes, and he was fired. He would be subject to various TCaP fans catfishing him for years (none of them pretending to be underage), filming himself doing repulsive acts such as eating feces and teasing himself in a bathroom mirror. He allegedly admitted to molesting his son to one of the fans catfishing him. He died in 2017.
No uncut interviews have ever resurfaced from the MSNBC subscription service. Internet archives point out that Randall Wolford's and Stanley Kendall's uncut footage (or at least snippets of them) possibly existed back in 2008.[76] However, clips from their televised interview with the MSNBC logo pasted on them exist on YouTube; suggesting that the dead links are these surviving clips. However, it could be different videos since multiple videos were uploaded to MSNBC for some predators. Fans also point out that an extended police interrogation existed for Randall Wolford, but it has yet to resurface.[77]
Conradt's chatlog would later be published on the Perverted Justice website under "Other Resolutions."[78] The chatlog of Stanley Kendall would eventually be uploaded to YouTube by Joey's TCAP Channel on August 12th, 2019. Joey would also upload Edward Hollingsworth V's chatlog on October 14th, 2021. The Skip Tracer would partially recover the chat logs of Randall Wolford, Patrick Parr, Sajjad Mohammed, Eric Rubalcava, and Timothy Knowles and later fully recover the chat log of John Baker, all between September 2021 and March 2022. A Temple of TCAP forums user named tallarico would also post an excerpt from Alan Chernay's chat log on February 2, 2017. Additionally, William Dow's was revealed in 2023 on Predators I've Caught, although it's clear some parts are still missing.
Predator | Chatlog | Podcast |
---|---|---|
Timothy Gilliam | Lost | No |
Randall "Randy" Wolford | Partially Found | Yes |
Patrick Parr | Partially Found | No |
Justin Estes | Lost | No |
Sajjad Mohammad | Partially Found | No |
William Dow | Partially Found (check podcast) | Yes |
Alan Chernay | Partially Found | Yes |
Stanley Kendall | Found | Yes |
Christopher Cothrum | Lost | No |
Eric Rubalcava | Partially Found | No |
Timothy Knowles | Partially Found | No |
David Pann | Lost | No |
Edward Hollingsworth V | Found | Yes |
John Baker | Found | No |
Steve Rosello | Lost | No |
Louis William "Bill" Conradt Jr. | Found | Yes |
Unaired
Several men were not featured on the show.
Asif Khokhar, a hospital and healthcare worker, was not interviewed by Hansen due to showing up at the sting house while Louis Conradt was confronted. Therefore, he most likely received the locked door treatment that Edward Hollingsworth V received. Asif was the only predator in this sting to be convicted because a detective and the DA from his local district (Harris County near Houston) wanted to charge him and take over the cases that were not going to be prosecuted in Collin County.[79] Therefore, his complete chat log was posted on the Perverted Justice website.
Also, it is known that Mehta did not have an interview because he is seen in the episode running from Hansen. In 2022, The Skip Tracer obtained Milan Mehta's chat log transcript. Tanguma is also known not to have a Chris Hansen since he is seen driving away in his white pickup truck.
Whether Soto or Deassuncao had interviews is still being determined. Soto can only be seen sitting down in court during the trials, although Deassuncao can also be seen running in the episode in a shot with Chris Hansen and the decoy; however, if he stayed for an interview or just ran away immediately, like Mehta, is unknown.
This leaves 21 predators in total. Every source claims that 25 predators showed up during the sting, indicating that four predators are completely unknown.
Predator | Chatlog | Podcast |
---|---|---|
Asif Khokhar | Found | No |
Milan Mehta | Found | No |
Samuel Tanguma | Lost | No |
Jose Soto | Lost | No |
Paulo Deassuncao | Lost | No |
Flagler Beach, Florida
The Flagler Beach, Florida, sting was conducted in December 2006, and 21 men were arrested over four days with the Flagler Police. Among them include James Wiles, who not only claimed that he could not have sex but also admitted in his interrogation that he was previously accused of sexually abusing his children; Safraz Khan and Yazan Asfour, who appeared at the sting house within five minutes of each other, and were thus interviewed together by Hansen; Deepak Bisk, a teacher; and Todd Spikes, an Alabama policeman who was found to have multiple guns and a body dump kit in his car.[80]
Eighteen would be convicted, with their chatlogs published on Perverted Justice's website. Wiles, Asfour, and Mohammed Abdallah would later abscond,[81][82][83] with Wiles being re-arrested in November 2009,[84] only to die very painfully in 2010 before his trial after he refused to take his medication.[85] Thus, all three chatlogs were not published on Perverted Justice's website, but Wiles' chat log would be uploaded to YouTube by Joey's TCAP Channel on August 25th, 2020. Mohammed's chat logs remain lost, with only small samples of it being known through his Hansen interview.
Additionally, some uncut Hansen interviews have resurfaced; the first is Abdallah's, which was uploaded to YouTube by a user called AFGurI0 on September 15th, 2009, from an extended version of the Flagler Beach episode, from the online MSNBC Subscription service. However, jump cuts make it noticeable that some shots are still missing, and some narration and editing from the broadcast product are included. The rest of the episodes and the extended interviews still need to be recovered. Later on, in January 2024, TCAP YouTuber printo316 uploaded some uncut interviews from archive.org, including Brian Dory, Anthony Sorrentino, Michael Collins, Safraz Khan Yazan Asfour, and Daniel Kelly. Just like Abdallah's interview, though, jump cuts make it noticeable there are still some shots missing. Internet archives also confirm Lance Fine's uncut interview was released, as was Todd Spikes' uncut arrest footage.[86] these confrontations are still lost. In March of 2024, another version of Abdallah's without the editing was found, which originated from the dead MSNBC subscription service.
However, all the Flagler Beach police interrogations have been uploaded to YouTube by The Cappening Channel through freedom of information requests.[87]
David Wagner did not agree to speak to police before even entering the interrogation room, so no interrogation footage is believed to exist. Before the sting, Wagner lived in Ohio and was almost caught in the Greenville episode but was a no-show. He would later be arrested again about a year later for sexually assaulting a real underage girl after the sting, being designated a "Sexual Predator" by the state of Florida. While in prison, Wagner wrote a blog about himself as if from the perspective of another inmate. After being released from jail, he relocated to Arizona, taking up an interest in conspiracy theories, as well as advocating for sexual assault survivors and people mistreated in prison. His sex offender information was initially difficult to find beyond his out-of-date Florida profile. Still, he was discovered in 2023 to be living in Ohio again, where he is classed as a Tier II sex offender, meaning he is considered to have a moderate risk of reoffending and must update his status with law enforcement every six months for twenty-five years.
Safraz Khan's interrogation was initially uploaded in three parts, but all but part one was taken down, presumably due to the policy change. A full version of Yazan Asfour's interrogation is attached to it and exists online.
In 2024, Yazan Asfour's chatlog was recovered, with the expectation of future lost chat logs being recovered as well.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Police Interrogation | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|---|
Mohammed Abdallah | Lost | Found | Partially Found | Yes |
Brian Dory | Found | Found, Found | Partially Found | Yes |
William Roach | Found | Found, Found | N/A (however, there is an interaction Roach has with decoy, Samantha - this uncut footage is also lost) | Yes |
Deepak Bist | Found | Found, Found | Lost | Yes |
Anthony Sorrentino | Found | Found, Found | Partially Found | Yes |
David Wagner | Lost (first), Found (second) | N/A (did not speak to police) | Lost | Yes |
Charles Gregory Green | Found | Found, Found | Lost | Yes |
Brian Ruffino | Found | Found, Found | Lost | Yes |
Michael Wayne Collins | Found | Found | Partially Found | No |
Safraz Khan | Found | Found | Partially Found | Yes |
Yazan Asfour | Found | Found | Partially Found | Yes |
Daniel Peter Kelly | Found | Found, Found, Found | Partially Found | Yes |
Michael Reyes | Found | Found, Found | Lost | No |
James Wiles | Found, Found, Found | Lost | Yes | |
David Demers | Found | Found, Found | Lost | No |
Oanh Le | Found | Found | Lost | Yes |
Lance Fine | Found | Found | Lost | Yes |
Todd Spikes | Found | Found | N/A (however, Spikes' arrest and processing were taped in their entirety - this uncut footage is also lost) | Yes |
Unaired suspects
Stephen Holt (like Wagner) had previously almost been caught in the Greenville Ohio sting, but he was too young to be arrested at the time; he was 18 and still in high school and did not meet the age difference requirement; and Anthony Phillips, who would later become a deputy despite his involvement in the sting, and was subsequently fired when his superiors discovered his involvement in the sting.[88] Both men were young college students living in Florida then, and Chris Hansen interviewed both. This is confirmed by their appearance in group montages and descriptions of their interviews provided by others.
According to one of the Perverted Justice volunteers, Holt laughed when Hansen brought up a photograph Stephen had sent of his genitals to who he believed to be a thirteen-year-old girl. In a Predators I've Caught podcast, Chris Hansen described his interview with Phillips as brief and said, "We just decided not to air it."
Another unaired predator, Samuel Ray Harrison, also appeared in this episode. He coincidentally lived only four miles from the sting house. Unlike Holt and Phillips, however, he never went inside the sting house. He waited out front until Hansen came, but instead of talking to Hansen, he ran and was arrested. His chatlog and uncut police interrogation are both also publicly available.
Like with the aired predators, their chat logs and uncut police interrogations are both available online. However, all three uncut Hansen confrontations with these men remain lost, as their interactions were never televised aside from the aforementioned brief highlights.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Police Interrogation | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|---|
Stephen Holt | Lost (first), Found (second) | Found, Found, Found | Lost | No |
Anthony Phillips | Found | Found | Lost | Yes |
Samuel Ray Harrison | Found | FoundFound | Lost | No |
Ocean County, New Jersey
The Ocean County, New Jersey sting was conducted from late March to early April 2007 and saw the arrests of 28 men with the help of the Ocean County Police. Among them include Todd Lewis, a registered sex offender previously convicted of sexually abusing a young girl he met online; Michael Lubrano, a massive fan of the show; Kazuo Akutsu, who ended up passing out and crashing into a bar counter in the sting house.[89][90]
Almost all of the men were convicted, aside from Tech Sergeant Ernest Timmons, having passed away while in jail because of liver failure. His chatlog was published on Perverted Justice's website as part of "Other Resolutions." [91] The remaining chatlogs were also published on the website, except Savio Noronha's, with speculation being[92] he managed to be acquitted of the charges against him. Jeremy Keister spoke to ten other PJ contributors before settling on one who wasn't a virgin, although these chat logs were not published and remain lost.
Most disturbingly, four years before the sting, Terry Warner was caught chatting up a thirteen-year-old decoy in 2003, although he was never formally charged for the incident. This first chat log can be found using internet archives. Terry would later try to be a Santa Claus at a community center but was fired after his superiors discovered his involvement in the sting.
Although no police interrogations have been made publicly accessible due to New Jersey's secretive legal system, a small snippet of Kazuo Akutsu's uncut Hansen confrontation has been found, namely when he passes out and smashes into the bar at the end of the interview. Some uncut footage from interviews with Michael Lubrano, Terry Warner, and Todd Lewis can also be found online. Internet Archives point out that other uncut confrontations (or at least snippets of them) were once available, like Timmons, Gregory Stewart, and Eugene Daily. However, these have been lost to this day.[93]
In 2024, another unnoticed video of Kazuo Akutsu's interview was found, with parts of the interview in it.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|
Gregory Stewart | Found | Lost | Yes |
David Russell | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the house) | No |
Eugene Daily | Found | Lost | Yes |
Daniel Figueroa | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the house) | No |
Selwyn Knights | Found | N/A (however, Knights had an interaction with the decoy, Casey, at the front door before taking off - this uncut footage is lost as well) | No |
Jerome "Dwayne" Chisholm | Found | Lost | Yes |
Jean (or James) Erick Saintil | Found | N/A (arrested before approaching the beach) | No |
Ziegfeld Rivera | Found | Lost | No |
Michael Lubrano | Found | Partially Found | Yes |
Robert Graber | Found | Lost | No |
Ernest Timmons | Found | Lost | No |
Malik Washington | Found | Lost | Yes |
Richard Burnham | Found | Lost | Yes |
Howard Thornton III | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the house) | No |
James Marcotte | Found | Lost | No |
Anthony Palumbo | Found | Lost | Yes |
Savio Noronha | Lost | N/A (arrested before entering the house) | No |
Jeremy Keister | Lost (first ten), Found (final one) | Lost | Yes |
Michael Murray | Found | Lost | Yes |
John Donnelly | Found | Lost | Yes |
Thomas Shin | Found | Lost | Yes |
Terry Warner | Found (first), Found (second) | Partially Found | Yes |
Todd Lewis | Found | Partially Found | Yes |
Kazuo Akutsu | Found | PartiallyFound | No |
Unaired
Four suspects - Sean Lee, William Hare, Justo Benavides, and Chris Raynor - were unaired.
Sean Lee showed up concurrently with Jeremy Keister and Michael Murray, being quietly arrested outside while Hansen confronted Keister and Murray. Casey Mauro, the decoy, said on an Ask Me Anything subreddit that there was a third predator who showed up, and Lee's arrest times match with Murray and Keister, and Lee's car is seen in the background when the two of them were arrested. Additionally, in Predators I've Caught, Chris mentions in Michael Murray's episode that a third predator might have been coming into the house before the police intervened. With all this, it's safe to assume Lee was not interviewed. The reason why Lee was only given about three seconds of screen time is that he is mentally impaired, as the arrest sheet says he's disabled and unemployed.
Additionally, a part of Lee's chatlog seems to be edited out, as there is a time gap according to the PJ file; when he's describing a "meeting" he has to go to later, the decoy is trying to get him to cancel it, indicating it may have been something to do with his mental impairment.
Hansen also did not interview Hare, while Benavides and Raynor appeared in brief snippets, apparently having been interviewed. However, their uncut confrontations still need to be recovered.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|
Sean Lee | Partially Found | N/A (arrested before entering the sting house while Jeremy Kesiter and Michael Murray were inside) | No (however, Hansen does allude to Lee in Murray's podcast episode) |
William Hare | Found | N/A (arrested before entering the house) | No |
Justo Benavides | Found | Lost | No |
Chris Raynor | Found | Lost | No |
Bowling Green, Kentucky
Finally, the Bowling Green, Kentucky sting was conducted in October 2007 by the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation and resulted in the arrests of seven men over four days.[94] This was the only sting Dateline did not initiate, as this state Police Department was doing stings all over Kentucky.
Among them included James Travis Fowler, a registered sex offender convicted in 1995 for having sex with an underage seventeen-year-old, who got arrested for entering a school years after the sting[95]; Dustin McPhetridge, a sufferer of cerebral palsy who was previously caught chatting inappropriately online with teenage girls. He also possessed many indecent images and videos of children on DVD-Rs[96]; and Michael Patterson, who claimed to be a police detective and who got tasered since he claimed he had a handgun. It was later figured out he was a cop but was fired after illegally pulling someone over out of his Jurisdiction.[97]
One more notable predator in this sting is the infamous Lorne Armstrong. Lorne, before the sting, worked as a construction worker. He was previously arrested and convicted of having a DWI, but other than that, Armstrong never offended. Armstrong would write the longest chatlog on TCAP ever with 407 pages, and he ironically showed up at the sting house on the same day of his birthday. He was sentenced to prison and lifetime parole and sex offender. He became one of the most notorious predators among the TCAP predators. He would make a YouTube channel to gain popularity but fail later. His notable quotes include "Oh Cawd," which has become infamous among fans. Hansen has been working back and forth with Armstrong to have a podcast where the two will sit down and talk.
Also included were highlights of the Highland Heights sting Dateline NBC was not involved with, with a segment on Jim Rauch being shown. He was a University of Cincinnati faculty member whose police interrogation and phone conversation with the decoy became famous among the TCAP community.[98] Also caught in the same sting as Rauch were Charles McAllister, Michael Meyers, Paul Westwood, and Timothy Kyne.
All the predators featured were convicted, and thus, their chatlogs were published on the Perverted Justice website. A freedom of information request also successfully gained access to all police interrogations. The only missing police interrogation for Bowling Green is the video for Jeremy Todd West, although a complete audio recording has been recovered.
As for uncut interviews, two full ones were uploaded to YouTube, originating from an unusual source; the uncut Lorne Armstrong interview was sent by Armstrong himself to a catfish of his, believing that NBC unfairly represented him in the broadcast and that the uncut footage would show him in a better light when seen by others. James Travis Fowler's segment was also included in the tape.[99]
The rest of the full uncut confrontations have yet to see the light of day, although an uncut clip of Michael Patterson being tased after his interview concluded has been recovered. In addition, unnoticed uncut footage from Web Archives dating back to 2018, including John Elliot, was found. Temple of TCaP member money22 uploaded it. The footage consists of his interaction with the decoy, Casey Mauro, at the very beginning of his interview until Hansen walks out, with post-production commentary from Casey. It would subsequently be uploaded to YouTube by printo316. A small portion of Michael Patterson's uncut interview with Chris was also found.
Predator | Chatlog | Uncut Hansen Confrontation | Uncut Police Interrogation | Podcast |
---|---|---|---|---|
James “Jim” Rauch | Found | N/A (however, Rauch was taped being arrested and booked - this uncut footage is also lost) | Found | No |
John Wesley Elliot | Found | Partially Found | Found | Yes |
Jeremy Todd West | Found | Lost | Found (Audio), Lost (Video) | Yes |
Lorne Armstrong | Found | Found | Found | No |
Dustin McPhetridge | Found | Lost | Found | Yes |
Richard Watwood | Found | Lost | Found | Yes |
James Travis Fowler | Found | Found | Found, Found | Yes |
Michael Patterson | Found | PartiallyFound | Found | Yes |
Michael Meyers | Found | N/A (however, Meyers was taped entering the sting house and being arrested - this uncut footage is also lost) | Found | No |
Timothy Kyne | Found | N/A (however, Kyne was taped entering the sting house and being arrested - this uncut footage is also lost) | Found | No |
Charles McAllister | Found | N/A (however, McAllister was taped entering the sting house and being arrested - this uncut footage is also lost) | Found | No |
Paul Westwood | Found | N/A (however, Westwood was taped entering the sting house and being arrested - this uncut footage is also lost) | Found | No |
Gallery
Videos
See Also
- Hansen vs. Predator (partially lost chatlogs, uncut interviews and police interrogations; 2015)
- Louis Conradt (lost audiotape of assistant district attorney's final words and suicide; 2006)
External Links
References
- ↑ Perverted Justice home page discussing having decoys in MSN, AOL and Yahoo! chatroom back in the early-to-mid 2000s. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ NBC News explaining how the chatlogs alone were enough to be charged with a misdemeanor in California, but that showing up is a felony. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Perverted Justice explaining the Information Fi'Bold text''Italic text''rst scheme that led to chatlogs not being published unless convictions were secured. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Web Archive of MSNBC, which provided uncut TCAP interviews for Riverside and Ohio. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ 4Archive discussing how some police interrogations were obtained through FOIA requests. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ http://www.perverted-justice.com/
- ↑ Perverted Justice page concerning the Bethpage, New York sting. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Perverted Justice's Chatlog Conviction page for Ryan Hogan. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doi/downloads/pdf/pr36hoganplea52705.pdf
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HNBJ_R7sIw&t=344s&pp=ygUKZGFya2hlcm83Mw%3D%3D
- ↑ https://www.everand.com/podcast-show/505309931/Predators-I-ve-Caught-with-Chris-Hansen
- ↑ https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/7102/comment-on-recent-hvp-livestream
- ↑ https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/9795/recent-photo-suspicious-steve-bethpage
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGTit-KmE7I&t=1s&pp=ygUNTVVTVEkgUVVPVElaQQ%3D%3D
- ↑ Perverted Justice page concerning the Fairfax, Virginia sting. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.mbp.state.md.us/bpqapp/Orders/H5515606.258.PDF
- ↑ https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/21778/doctor-jeffrey-beck
- ↑ http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2007/jun/06/man-charged-2-indecent-exposures/
- ↑ https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/22606/more-recent-photos-alladin
- ↑ https://www.justice.gov/psc/docs/Wunderler_42706.pdf
- ↑ https://www.justice.gov/psc/docs/Bennof_102006.pdf
- ↑ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2006/12/02/rabbi-sentenced-in-internet-sex-sting/201b0c27-f63c-43f2-ab2d-0179ec01a1f6/
- ↑ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3557674/
- ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20051219062130/https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10498319/page/6/
- ↑ https://thoughtcatalog.com/emily-madriga/2021/06/17-real-people-who-knew-men-who-were-outed-by-to-catch-a-predator/
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvhRIidKHzE
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/FansHansenvsPredator/comments/pcpcl6/i_went_to_church_with_harold_higley/
- ↑ https://www.wtvr.com/2012/03/03/chesterfield-man-featured-on-catch-a-predator-busted-again
- ↑ https://www.dailynews.com/2006/01/20/school-officials-unaware-of-arrest/
- ↑ https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/3rd-dhs-employee-a-child-sex-criminal
- ↑ Perverted Justice page concerning the Riverside, California sting. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Will & Will article concerning William Lawrence Havey being acquitted. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Perverted Justice's "Other Resolutions" page for Charles Harding. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ 34.0 34.1 Web Archive showcasing a blocked MSNBC page containing uncut Riverside TCAP footage, including ones for Erik Pallesen, Abraham Koujababian and Danny Swinney, all of which are currently inaccessible, Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/video/erik-pallesen-460236355673
- ↑ https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/video/steven-coates-460315715803
- ↑ https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-court-of-appeal/1553589.html
- ↑ Web Archive showcasing a blocked MSNBC page containing TCAP footage, including one for John Mahon, which is inaccessible currently. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Web Archive showcasing a blocked MSNBC page containing TCAP Riverside footage, including one for John Mahon, which is inaccessible currently. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Web Archive showcasing additional Riverside footage, including for Jorge Correa's bust. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://apps.calbar.ca.gov/attorney/Licensee/Detail/232229
- ↑ Daily Advocate article concerning the Greenville, Ohio sting. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Fox 19 article concerning the arrest of James Rutherford. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ NBC News article concerning Kevin Westerbeck and his crimes. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Web Archive showcasing several uncut Ohio interviews that currently cannot be accessed. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Web Archive showcasing more uncut Ohio videos. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Third Web Archive link showcasing potentially lost uncut Ohio footage. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/video/predator-chindra-460462659765
- ↑ https://archive.org/download/msnbc.com-video-2006-07-31
- ↑ Naple News article concerning the Fort Myers, Florida sting. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Naples News article concerning Clifford Wallach and his conviction. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Naples News article concerning Marvin Lakhan. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://archive.naplesnews.com/lifestyle/family/sex-predator-tv-show-hits-home--as-local-police-offer-advice-to-parents-ep-405177392-335188791.html
- ↑ Temple of TCAP page discussing why the three Fort Myers predators were acquitted. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://archive.naplesnews.com/lifestyle/family/sex-predator-tv-show-hits-home--as-local-police-offer-advice-to-parents-ep-405177392-335188791.html
- ↑ https://archive.naplesnews.com/lifestyle/family/sex-predator-tv-show-hits-home--as-local-police-offer-advice-to-parents-ep-405177392-335188791.html
- ↑ Ledger-Enquirer article concerning the Fortson, Georgia sting. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Forsyth News concerning Cody Green and his subsequent arrest. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ NBC News article concerning the Fortson, Georgia sting and Rolando Restocruz. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news/local_news/to-catch-a-predator/article_0462defa-a552-5a62-ae81-8462df18a558.html
- ↑ https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article28992607.html
- ↑ Perverted Justice's Most Wanted page for Abhilash Bhaskaran. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Press Democrat article concerning the Petaluma, California sting. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Daily Mail article concerning Joseph Roisman being acquitted. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Perverted Justice's Most Wanted page for Pulkit Mathur. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20061215123751/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10912603/
- ↑ Temple of TCAP discussing Vaikunth Soundarajan's uncut interrogation Retrieved 27 May '23
- ↑ NBC News article concerning the Long Beach, California sting and Michael Warrecker. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Los Angeles Times article concerning the Long Beach, California sting and Michael Seibert's second appearance. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.newsweek.com/nickelodeon-employee-catch-predator-chris-hansen-1881732
- ↑ Esquire article detailing the botched arrest and ultimately, the suicide of Louis Conradt. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Fox News article concerning the Texas district attorney's decision not to press charges on the Murphy predators. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.justice.gov/archive/usao/txn/PressRel09/wolford_PSC_sen_pr.html
- ↑ https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/15106/stanley-kendall-taught-more-years
- ↑ https://wsbt.com/news/local/protocol-examined-after-subs-to-catch-a-predator-appearance-surfaces
- ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20070218093454/http://www.msnbc.msn.com:80/id/10912603
- ↑ https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/23478/archives-confirm-more-extended-interview
- ↑ Perverted Justice's "Other Resolutions" page for Louis Conradt. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/two-years-after-online-sex-sting-houston-man-goes-to-prison/285-342652165
- ↑ NBC News article concerning the Flagler Beach, Florida sting, and James Wiles, Safraz Khan and Yazan Asfour, and Todd Spikes. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Perverted Justice's Most Wanted page for Yazan Asfour. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Perverted Justice's Most Wanted page for Yazan Asfour. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Perverted Justice's Most Wanted page for Mohammed Abdallah. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Temple of TCAP post discussing James Wiles being re-arrested in November 2009. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Temple of TCAP post concerning the death of James Wiles. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20070525175858/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10912603/
- ↑ Temple of TCAP post discussing how the Flagler Beach, Florida police interrogations resurfaced online. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/fired-breckinridge-county-deputy-opens-up-about-his-arrest-in-predator-sting/article_ead96706-86e8-11e9-bebe-930eeb4a55d2.html
- ↑ NBC News article concerning the Ocean County, New Jersey sting and its predators. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Trib Live article concerning the conviction of Todd Lewis. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Perverted Justice's "Other Resolutions" page for Ernest Timmons. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Temple of TCAP forum theorizing why Savio Noronha's chatlog was never published. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20071105000201/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10912603/
- ↑ ColumbiaMagazine discussing the Bowling Green, Kentucky sting. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://myfox8.com/news/man-featured-on-to-catch-a-predator-arrested-at-nc-school/
- ↑ NBC News article discussing the Bowling Green, Kentucky sting, and its predators. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ https://www.bgdailynews.com/news/police-news-dateline-investigation-leads-to-prison-time/article_13741a02-7373-542f-9dd9-439add483ebe.html
- ↑ Temple of TCAP discussing Jim Rauch's notability within the TCAP community. Retrieved 8 Aug '21
- ↑ Temple of TCAP discussing how the uncut interviews of Lorne Armstrong and Travis Fowler were found. Retrieved 8 Aug '21