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The front cover of System Failure Vol. 1.

Status: Partially Found

On December 29, 1993, American rock band AFI performed a show at The Phoenix Theater in Petaluma, California. Though 5 tracks from this performance were released on the 1994 live EP Eddie Picnic's All Wet, the group reportedly also performed a cover of "Ronnie Was a Rebel" parts I and II, originally from punk band Chaos UK.^[1]^[2] The recording of this cover has become one of the rarest AFI songs ever made, as it is not on any official releases and no copies of it have surfaced on the internet.

Status

There is a bootleg tape under the name of System Failure Vol. 1, which contains many songs from an assortment of bands. The AFI performance of "Ronnie" was included on it, according to the tracklist provided by a user who auctioned the tape on eBay for $125 USD in 2008.^[3] However, there are no known rips of this tape, and no other copies have appeared for sale.

In spite of the song's obscurity, multiple people have come forward to claim that they once had an MP3 copy of it that was traded around in the past, but that they have since lost it.^[4] If any fans do still have this MP3, they have not come forward with it. Additionally, there are no traces of footage of the song being performed live from the live concert in Petaluma, CA.

System Failure Vol. 1 tracklist

Side A

#	Track Title	Band	Status
1	Prone	Dead And Gone	Found
2	For Too	Litmus Green	Found
3	Authority Figure	Jon Martyr/Anxiety	Lost
4	God	Armed Relapse	Found
5	What We Need	Siren	Lost
6	So Typical	Multi Facet	Lost
7	Amerikan Way	K.P.F.	Found
8	Ronnie Was A Rebel	AFI	Lost
9	Abolish Apartheid	Autonomy	Found
10	No Side	Submission	Lost
11	You're A Disgrace	Naked Aggression	Found
12	Tension	Oppressed Logic	Found
13	Hijack	The Randumbs	Lost
14	Jelly Me Chette	Adolescents (UK)	Lost
15	Oppression With A Question	Corrupted Ideals	Found
16	Closet Nazi	Fight For Change	Lost
17	Drinking Up My Mind	General Fools	Found
18	Exploitation	Rejected Motherfu**ers	Lost
19	Robotech	Litmus Green	Found
20	Too Fu**ed Up To Care	Tha Skirts (Sean Sh*t's Band)	Lost

Side B

#	Track Title	Band	Status
1	Daryl	The Randumbs	Lost
2	Society House	Mickey And The Big Mouths	Lost
3	Tradition	Korrupt	Lost
4	Driven Down The Road	Naked Aggression	Found
5	Wasteland	Multi Facet	Lost
6	Day After Day	Armed Relapse	Found
7	Poverty And Death	Autonomy	Found
8	Money Changes Everything	Siren	Lost
9	Victim	Submission	Lost
10	a.l.bb	Milkfat	Lost
11	No-no	Adolescents (UK)	Lost
12	Westworld	Corrupted Ideals	Lost
13	Quesse	General Fools	Found
14	Gnarlyspadokey	Furley	Lost
15	Average Americans	Last Round Up	Found
16	Pa Tradition	Korrupt	Lost
17	Fortune Cookie Nookie	Black Fork	Found
18	Mark's A Fu**in' Lush	Tha Skirts	Lost
19	I Love Rock n' Roll	Wheelchair M.F.'s	Lost

Rediscovery

Only existing fragment of Ronnie II

Geoff Kresge's soundboard recording of the performance in question

On August 21, 2015, AFI's former bassist (present at the time of recording) Geoff Kresge posted a fragment of the clip to his Instagram page.^[5] While positively identified as the song appearing on System Failure, Vol. 1, the recording clearly portrays the song "Ronnie II" being performed,^[6] meaning the labelling was likely a mistake (despite the band being known to have performed "Ronnie Was a Rebel"). Kresge has kept the entire soundboard recording to the show, as he has also pictured. Additionally, Kresge also teased other lost and unreleased AFI content, including the track "Flux Capacitor," a track which was only ever performed live, and an unknown studio track, originating from an abandoned 4 track EP.

Kresge was documenting his process of remastering these tracks, but as of July 2019, there have been no further developments.

External Links

References

↑ Full scans and liner notes from Eddie Picnic's All Wet, on Discogs. Retrieved 13 May '19
↑ AFI News Headquarters list of covers by the group. Archived 30, Dec '11. Retrieved 13 May '19
↑ Mirror of the 2008 eBay listing. Retrieved 13 May '19
↑ Reddit thread where multiple users claim they lost their copy of the song. Retrieved 13 May '19
↑ [1] Retrieved 10 July '19
↑ [2]

[1] Full scans and liner notes from Eddie Picnic's All Wet, on Discogs. Retrieved 13 May '19

[2] AFI News Headquarters list of covers by the group. Archived 30, Dec '11. Retrieved 13 May '19

[3] Mirror of the 2008 eBay listing. Retrieved 13 May '19

[4] Reddit thread where multiple users claim they lost their copy of the song. Retrieved 13 May '19

[5] [1] Retrieved 10 July '19

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 }}
 [[File:AFIlive1993.jpeg|thumb|right|Geoff Kresge's soundboard recording of the performance in question]]
-On August 21, 2015, AFI's former bassist (present at the time of recording) Geoff Kresge posted a fragment of the clip to his Instagram page.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/6qOX1hqeMXnQO-uKLopafRtAeF8sYVzGz0Nq40/] Retrieved 10 July '19</ref> While positively identified as the song appearing on System Failure, Vol. 1, the recording clearly portrays the song "Ronnie II" being performed,<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRjYMYuzWdw]</ref> meaning the labeling was likely a mistake (despite the band being known to have performed "Ronnie Was a Rebel"). Kresge has kept the entire soundboard recording to the show, as he has also pictured. Additionally, Kresge also teased additional lost and unreleased AFI content, including the track "Flux Capacitor", a track which was only ever performed live, and an unknown studio track, originating from an abandoned 4 track EP.
+On August 21, 2015, AFI's former bassist (present at the time of recording) Geoff Kresge posted a fragment of the clip to his Instagram page.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/6qOX1hqeMXnQO-uKLopafRtAeF8sYVzGz0Nq40/] Retrieved 10 July '19</ref> While positively identified as the song appearing on System Failure, Vol. 1, the recording clearly portrays the song "Ronnie II" being performed,<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRjYMYuzWdw]</ref> meaning the labelling was likely a mistake (despite the band being known to have performed "Ronnie Was a Rebel"). Kresge has kept the entire soundboard recording to the show, as he has also pictured. Additionally, Kresge also teased other lost and unreleased AFI content, including the track "Flux Capacitor," a track which was only ever performed live, and an unknown studio track, originating from an abandoned 4 track EP.
-Kresge was documenting his process of remastering these tracks, but as of July 2019 there have been no further developments.
+Kresge was documenting his process of remastering these tracks, but as of July 2019, there have been no further developments.
 ==External Links==