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|title=<center>Ween</center>
|title=<center>Ween (demo songs)</center>
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|imagecaption=A collection of tapes from Ween.
|imagecaption=A collection of tapes from Ween.
|status=<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''</span>
|status=<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''</span>
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'''Ween''' is an American experimental rock band formed in New Hope, Pennsylvania, in 1985. They have gained a large cult following and critical praise for their genre-hopping music, "brown" sound (drawing on psychedelic music), and crude sense of humor, among other aspects. They released 9 studio albums and 2 compilations before disbanding in 2012, eventually reforming in 2016.
Ween is an American experimental rock band formed in New Hope, Pennsylvania, in 1985, infamously known for making "Loop de Loop" and "Ocean Man". They have gained a large cult following and critical praise for their genre-hopping music, "brown" sound (drawing on psychedelic music), and crude sense of humor, among other aspects. They released 9 studio albums and 2 compilations before disbanding in 2012 and eventually reforming in 2016.


Since their formation, they have recorded '''''numerous demo tapes and songs''''' alongside their official releases. While most of their extensive demo-and-outtake discography is widely available and shared on platforms such as YouTube, there are some songs and even entire tapes that have yet to resurface. Some songs were known to be played on Weenradio, and others shared on file-sharing site WeenFTP.<ref>[https://alt.music.ween.narkive.com/gn4ZbwZG/special-broadcast Post regarding the status of a Weenradio broadcast containing certain songs listed in the article.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref> Unfortunately, certain Weenradio broadcasts aren't known to have been recorded and WeenFTP has long since been rendered inoperative. Further complicating matters is the lack of information for a majority of the tapes.
Since their formation, they have recorded '''''numerous demo tapes and songs''''' alongside their official releases. While most of their extensive demo-and-outtake discography is widely available and shared on platforms such as YouTube and, formerly, Browntracker (a site dedicated to sharing live shows and demos from the band), there are some songs and even entire tapes that have yet to resurface. Some songs were known to be played on Weenradio, and others were shared on the file-sharing site WeenFTP.<ref>[https://alt.music.ween.narkive.com/gn4ZbwZG/special-broadcast Post regarding the status of a Weenradio broadcast containing certain songs listed in the article.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref> Unfortunately, certain Weenradio broadcasts aren't known to have been recorded and WeenFTP has long since been rendered inoperative. Further complicating matters is the lack of information for a majority of the tapes.


==Lost/Partially Found Tapes<ref>[https://rateyourmusic.com/list/itlungylung/ween-rarities-and-oddities/ A comprehensive list of known rare Ween releases, including lost ones.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>==
==Known Tapes<ref>[https://rateyourmusic.com/list/itlungylung/ween-rarities-and-oddities/ A comprehensive list of known rare Ween releases, including lost ones.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>==
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! style="background-color:green" | Tape Name
! style="background-color:green" |
! style="background-color:green" | Tape
! style="background-color:green" | Recorded
! style="background-color:green" | Recorded
! style="background-color:green" | Status
! style="background-color:green" | Status
!
|-
|Mrs. Slack||1983||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|Chris Hoecke||1984||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|Mike Banks||1985||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|We Broke Up||1985||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Kim Tulio||1985||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|Ween/Smersh||1986||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|Ween WAD||1988||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|Scraping The Palm For Guava||1989||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|-
|1||Ween WAD||1985||<span style="color:grey;">'''Existence Unconfirmed'''<ref>[https://www.discogs.com/Ween-WEEN-WAD/release/13521793 Discogs entry for the alleged Ween WAD tape.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
|Focus||1989||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|-
|2||Mrs. Slack||1985?||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|The Stallion||1990||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|-
|3||We Broke Up||1987||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|The Timmy Wasserman Tape||1990||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|-
|4||Ween/Smersh||1987||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Live Weed Whore||1990||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|-
|5||Focus||1989?||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Pork Roll Egg And Cheese Tape||1990||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|-
|6||Eindhoven EP||1990||<span style="color:orange;">'''Possibly Found'''
|Bilboa||1990||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|-
|7||Caprice Classic||1991||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|The Eindhoven EP||1990||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|-
|8||Springstuff||1991||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Springstuff||1991||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|-
|9||The Freedom Tape||1992||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Lost'''
|Caprice Classic||1991||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|-
|10||Créme de Menthe||1993||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Eravis||1991||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|-
|11||Music for Drunk Irish Homos||1995||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Vallejo||1992||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|-
|-
|12||Various pre-1990 tapes (Kim Tulio, John Ward, The Polish Lightbulb Joke, Mike Banks)||mid-to-late 1980s||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|The Freedom Tape||1992||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|-
|13||Jug is Quaid||1990s?||[https://youtu.be/IyiTHcCGkyE<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found''']
|Chocolate And Cheese||1992||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|-
|14||Various The Pod demo tapes (Pork Roll Egg and Cheese, The Stallion, Weed Whore)||Early 1990s||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|Creme De Menthe||1993||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|Music For Drunk Irish Homos||1996||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Long Beach Island||1999||<span style="color:green;">'''Found'''
|}
|}


==Lost/Unresurfaced Songs==
==Notable Lost/Unsurfaced Songs==
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
|-
! style="background-color:green" |
! style="background-color:green" | Name
! style="background-color:green" | Name
! style="background-color:green" | Outtake/Demo?
! style="background-color:green" | Tape/Sessions
! style="background-color:green" | Sessions for...
! style="background-color:green" | Status
|-
|-
|1||Kevin the Honky||Demo||The Mollusk
|White Haai||Ween WAD||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|-
|2||Gotta Burn on My Arm||Demo||Pure Guava
|Love Excerpt||Ween WAD||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|-
|3||I Got It||Demo||Pure Guava
|Ho Ho The Clown||Focus||[https://youtu.be/5Z5LOoPBS9Q <span style="color:green;">'''Found''']
|-
|-
|4||Boston Chicken||Outtake||12 Golden Country Greats<ref>[https://m.facebook.com/relayshack/photos/10157830484923646/ Photo shared by 12 Golden Country Greats producer Ben Vaughn, showing an early tracklisting for the album that includes the lost "Boston Chicken".] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
|Opus 51 (Fugue Trilogy In A) (Studio Re-Recording)||God Ween Satan Studio Sessions||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|-
|-
|5||Louise||Outtake||White Pepper
|I Got It||Pure Guava Sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|-
|6||Streetfight||Demo||None (around Chocolate and Cheese era)
|Gotta Burn On My Leg||Vallejo||[https://youtu.be/lQBqWRQjNgI<span style="color:green;">'''Found''']
|-
|-
|7||Israel||Demo||Unknown (rerecorded for the Shinola, Vol. 1 compilation)
|Streetfight||The Freedom Tape||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Joppa Road (Demo)||Chocolate And Cheese Sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Voodoo Lady (Demo)||Chocolate And Cheese Sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Wet Peat||Creme De Menthe||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|The Concert Is Over||Creme De Menthe||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|If You Love Me||Chocolate & Cheese Sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Mariko-San||Chocolate And Cheese Sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Boston Chicken||12 Golden Country Greats Sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''</span><ref>[https://m.facebook.com/relayshack/photos/10157830484923646/ Photo shared by 12 Golden Country Greats producer Ben Vaughn, showing an early tracklisting for the album that includes the lost "Boston Chicken".] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
|-
|Kevin The Honky||Music For Drunk Irish Homos||[https://youtu.be/hgxfKl5tgmo<span style="color:green;">'''Found''']
|-
|Goodbye Little Baby Green||Music For Drunk Irish Homos||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Louise||White Pepper Sessions||[https://youtu.be/EhqJTh_wz8k<span style="color:green;">'''Found''']
|-
|Dickie Betts (1999 Demo)||White Pepper Sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|The Chancy Boys||La Cucaracha Sessions||[https://youtu.be/zb1QDIpcXAg<span style="color:green;">'''Found''']
|-
|Bison Burger||La Cucaracha Sessions||<span style="color:red;">'''Lost'''
|-
|Your Party (Demo)||La Cucaracha Sessions||<span style="color:orange;">'''Partially Found'''
|}
|}
==Unfinished 10th Album==
In a 2010 interview with The National Post, guitarist Dean Ween shared that Ween were due in the studio for a 10th studio album.<ref>[https://archive.ph/GrhWC An archived copy of the interview.] Retrieved 4 Aug, '21</ref> It is unknown what became of the sessions, or if any work was done on it, as Ween would announce their breakup 2 years later.
==Status==
==Status==
The Freedom Tape is by far the most complete of the known tapes, but still missing several songs, including alternate versions of ''What Deaner Was Talking About'', ''Don't Shit Where You Eat'', and ''Fluffy''.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ween/comments/abc5t1/found_copy_of_freedom_tape_tracklisting/ Reddit thread about the Freedom tape's tracklist.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref> The only song to resurface (and, by extension, the only known song) from Jug is Quaid is ''Albino Sunburned Girl''. The Eindhoven EP is sometimes rumored to be a live show guitarist Dean Ween shared in 2018.<ref>[https://youtu.be/0PgNFP5YNNo YouTube upload of the live show rumored to be the Eindhoven EP.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref>
The Freedom tape is partially accounted for, but missing several songs including 4-Track versions of ''Don't Shit Where You Eat'', and ''Fluffy'' and an unreleased demo titled ''Streetfight''.<ref>[https://reddit.com/r/ween/comments/abc5t1/found_copy_of_freedom_tape_tracklisting/ Reddit thread about the Freedom tape's tracklist.] Retrieved 22 Apr '21</ref> The Eindhoven EP consists of four songs recorded during a studio session at Tango Studios in Holland, Netherlands on Christmas Morning 1990. The songs recorded are ''Cover It With Gas (And Set It On Fire), Albino Sunburn Girl, Push Th' Little Daises,'' as well as an uncirculated studio recording of ''I Wuz Nuthin'.''
 
The Caprice Classic 1991 tape can be found scattered across many corners of the internet, its tracklist being revealed in the Ween Archived Facebook Group.
 
The Mrs. Slack, Chris Hoecke, Kim Tulio, Mike Banks, and John Ward tapes were compiled for Prime 5, a 1988 compilation that resurfaced in 2017.
 
An eBay listing for Ween WAD was found in 2021, now in the possession of a private tape collector.
 
All of Bilboa can be found online except for track 9, which is a rough mix of ''Right 2 The Ways And The Rules Of The World,'' making this tape partially lost.
 
The song ''I Got It'' was also allegedly circulating around 1994-95<ref>[https://alt.music.ween.narkive.com/gjChSIfT/i-got-it Ween forum post about remembering downloading I Got It.] Retrieved 4 Aug '21</ref>, though the legitimacy of this claim is unknown.
 
An uncirculated ''Your Party'' demo also exists, mentioned in an interview by Mickey as "sounding like The Red Hot Chili Peppers or something"


Certain .shn files were recovered from a WeenFTP archive by a Discord server dedicated to lost Ween media, but it is currently unknown exactly what songs have been recovered. The Mrs. Slack, Polish Lightbulb Joke, Kim Tulio, Mike Banks, and John Ward tapes were compiled, among others, for Prime 5, a 1988 compilation that resurfaced in 2017.
The tracks ''If You Love Me, The Concert Is Over,'' and ''Bison Burger'' have all been played live yet never surfaced in any studio/demo form. The song ''Dickie Betts'' was played live a couple times in in 1998-2000, later resurfacing in a rerecorded form on The Deaner Album, its original demo never being released.


==References==
==References==

Revision as of 02:37, 21 April 2024

Weentapes.jpg

A collection of tapes from Ween.

Status: Partially Found

Ween is an American experimental rock band formed in New Hope, Pennsylvania, in 1985, infamously known for making "Loop de Loop" and "Ocean Man". They have gained a large cult following and critical praise for their genre-hopping music, "brown" sound (drawing on psychedelic music), and crude sense of humor, among other aspects. They released 9 studio albums and 2 compilations before disbanding in 2012 and eventually reforming in 2016.

Since their formation, they have recorded numerous demo tapes and songs alongside their official releases. While most of their extensive demo-and-outtake discography is widely available and shared on platforms such as YouTube and, formerly, Browntracker (a site dedicated to sharing live shows and demos from the band), there are some songs and even entire tapes that have yet to resurface. Some songs were known to be played on Weenradio, and others were shared on the file-sharing site WeenFTP.[1] Unfortunately, certain Weenradio broadcasts aren't known to have been recorded and WeenFTP has long since been rendered inoperative. Further complicating matters is the lack of information for a majority of the tapes.

Known Tapes[2]

Tape Name Recorded Status
Mrs. Slack 1983 Partially Found
Chris Hoecke 1984 Partially Found
Mike Banks 1985 Partially Found
We Broke Up 1985 Lost
Kim Tulio 1985 Partially Found
Ween/Smersh 1986 Partially Found
Ween WAD 1988 Partially Found
Scraping The Palm For Guava 1989 Found
Focus 1989 Found
The Stallion 1990 Found
The Timmy Wasserman Tape 1990 Found
Live Weed Whore 1990 Lost
Pork Roll Egg And Cheese Tape 1990 Partially Found
Bilboa 1990 Partially Found
The Eindhoven EP 1990 Partially Found
Springstuff 1991 Partially Found
Caprice Classic 1991 Found
Eravis 1991 Found
Vallejo 1992 Found
The Freedom Tape 1992 Partially Found
Chocolate And Cheese 1992 Lost
Creme De Menthe 1993 Partially Found
Music For Drunk Irish Homos 1996 Lost
Long Beach Island 1999 Found

Notable Lost/Unsurfaced Songs

Name Tape/Sessions Status
White Haai Ween WAD Lost
Love Excerpt Ween WAD Lost
Ho Ho The Clown Focus Found
Opus 51 (Fugue Trilogy In A) (Studio Re-Recording) God Ween Satan Studio Sessions Partially Found
I Got It Pure Guava Sessions Lost
Gotta Burn On My Leg Vallejo Found
Streetfight The Freedom Tape Lost
Joppa Road (Demo) Chocolate And Cheese Sessions Lost
Voodoo Lady (Demo) Chocolate And Cheese Sessions Lost
Wet Peat Creme De Menthe Lost
The Concert Is Over Creme De Menthe Lost
If You Love Me Chocolate & Cheese Sessions Lost
Mariko-San Chocolate And Cheese Sessions Lost
Boston Chicken 12 Golden Country Greats Sessions Lost[3]
Kevin The Honky Music For Drunk Irish Homos Found
Goodbye Little Baby Green Music For Drunk Irish Homos Lost
Louise White Pepper Sessions Found
Dickie Betts (1999 Demo) White Pepper Sessions Lost
The Chancy Boys La Cucaracha Sessions Found
Bison Burger La Cucaracha Sessions Lost
Your Party (Demo) La Cucaracha Sessions Partially Found

Unfinished 10th Album

In a 2010 interview with The National Post, guitarist Dean Ween shared that Ween were due in the studio for a 10th studio album.[4] It is unknown what became of the sessions, or if any work was done on it, as Ween would announce their breakup 2 years later.

Status

The Freedom tape is partially accounted for, but missing several songs including 4-Track versions of Don't Shit Where You Eat, and Fluffy and an unreleased demo titled Streetfight.[5] The Eindhoven EP consists of four songs recorded during a studio session at Tango Studios in Holland, Netherlands on Christmas Morning 1990. The songs recorded are Cover It With Gas (And Set It On Fire), Albino Sunburn Girl, Push Th' Little Daises, as well as an uncirculated studio recording of I Wuz Nuthin'.

The Caprice Classic 1991 tape can be found scattered across many corners of the internet, its tracklist being revealed in the Ween Archived Facebook Group.

The Mrs. Slack, Chris Hoecke, Kim Tulio, Mike Banks, and John Ward tapes were compiled for Prime 5, a 1988 compilation that resurfaced in 2017.

An eBay listing for Ween WAD was found in 2021, now in the possession of a private tape collector.

All of Bilboa can be found online except for track 9, which is a rough mix of Right 2 The Ways And The Rules Of The World, making this tape partially lost.

The song I Got It was also allegedly circulating around 1994-95[6], though the legitimacy of this claim is unknown.

An uncirculated Your Party demo also exists, mentioned in an interview by Mickey as "sounding like The Red Hot Chili Peppers or something"

The tracks If You Love Me, The Concert Is Over, and Bison Burger have all been played live yet never surfaced in any studio/demo form. The song Dickie Betts was played live a couple times in in 1998-2000, later resurfacing in a rerecorded form on The Deaner Album, its original demo never being released.

References

  1. ↑ Post regarding the status of a Weenradio broadcast containing certain songs listed in the article. Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  2. ↑ A comprehensive list of known rare Ween releases, including lost ones. Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  3. ↑ Photo shared by 12 Golden Country Greats producer Ben Vaughn, showing an early tracklisting for the album that includes the lost "Boston Chicken". Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  4. ↑ An archived copy of the interview. Retrieved 4 Aug, '21
  5. ↑ Reddit thread about the Freedom tape's tracklist. Retrieved 22 Apr '21
  6. ↑ Ween forum post about remembering downloading I Got It. Retrieved 4 Aug '21
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